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Locking in the Top 12 with short fields?

RacerRose

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I have never been a fan of this rule since it was adopted several years ago.
I know why it was used, but I still don't like it.

But is it really necessary to use it when they have short fields or even when there are only 16 cars?
 
its an outdated rule and causes some qualifying drivers to not have a qualifying et because their friday run is thrown out and then they don't run on saturday, but are still in the show

see funny car ladder from the topeka 2009 race, jack wyatt doesn't have an "official qualifying et" but runs force in the first round

i'd like to see the driver carry forward their et from friday...caused johnny gray to not get in at chicago as well

this run:
13 31 Johnny Gray, Artesia NM, '10 Charger 4.394 230.13 230.13
since it was made on friday and 13th, kept johnny out of the chicago show as well
 
its an outdated rule and causes some qualifying drivers to not have a qualifying et because their friday run is thrown out and then they don't run on saturday, but are still in the show

see funny car ladder from the topeka 2009 race, jack wyatt doesn't have an "official qualifying et" but runs force in the first round

i'd like to see the driver carry forward their et from friday...caused johnny gray to not get in at chicago as well

this run:
13 31 Johnny Gray, Artesia NM, '10 Charger 4.394 230.13 230.13
since it was made on friday and 13th, kept johnny out of the chicago show as well

There are two sides to the "Summer" or "Hot Weather" Rule... If your weren't in the top sixteen after Friday nights "Hero Runs" then your had a snowballs chance of cracking the field on Saturday in the heat. So, 'THEY' hold 4 spots open for Saturday... that way, during the summer, it justifies coming to watch Saturday's "Show"....

Personally, I think it was as much about Gas Floppers as Fuel Cars, It's about having a bumping SHOW on Saturday.


d'kid
 
I thought this from the start yesterday, it's not fair and truly unneccessary.

It's not about "Fair", it's about "The Show". It's about one lane race tracks, with 140+ track temps, it's also about letting the 'little guys' getting into the "SHOW" on Saturday, because track temp is a great equalizer between the "Haves" and the "Have Nots".

I think about it as the "Route 66" Rule... and you can't change the 'rule' just because there may be a 'short field'... it happened when there were 22 to 24 cars showing up for each "PRO" class... and if you did not qualify in the 16 on Friday night under the lights, you didn't get in the field.

There is a way around it, Run Qualifying on both Friday and Saturday at 1 and 3 in the afternoon... opps, there goes your Friday Gate, can't have that.

d'kid
 
It's a damn joke just like Dapper Dan the $200,000 Man. Open qualifying back up, run the car back into line and try it again. I'm over assigned lanes, assigned times, and spec engines, leave the kids home and let's get back to racing under the lights.
Sunday is for church.
 
It's not about "Fair", it's about "The Show". It's about one lane race tracks, with 140+ track temps, it's also about letting the 'little guys' getting into the "SHOW" on Saturday, because track temp is a great equalizer between the "Haves" and the "Have Nots".

I think about it as the "Route 66" Rule... and you can't change the 'rule' just because there may be a 'short field'... it happened when there were 22 to 24 cars showing up for each "PRO" class... and if you did not qualify in the 16 on Friday night under the lights, you didn't get in the field.

There is a way around it, Run Qualifying on both Friday and Saturday at 1 and 3 in the afternoon... opps, there goes your Friday Gate, can't have that.

d'kid

I think you misunderstood me. I am a fan of the whole program, but it's pointless to follow it when there is no bump. I think overall the top 12 system was one of NHRA's better ideas to get in the show because it was becoming a friday qualifying day only and made saturday count for nothing.
 
The rule is necessary with a 15 car field or a 14 car field. Not implementing the rule could alter the ladder. Racers opponents should be determined by the same set of rules for all events for consistency. Do not change the order of 13,14,and 15 seeds of the ladder cause there is no 16.
 
The rule is necessary with a 15 car field or a 14 car field. Not implementing the rule could alter the ladder. Racers opponents should be determined by the same set of rules for all events for consistency. Do not change the order of 13,14,and 15 seeds of the ladder cause there is no 16.

and why not, all because "rules are rules?" it would of made for better racing because some pro stock guys got some good runs thrown out that they made friday. It should be lifted for 16 or less because guys like chrisman or diehl, sure they dont ever need to run seesion 1 or 2 cause only 3 or 4 count, but why not give independent guys the chance to run all 4 sessions without having to worry about if it's gonna be good enough for the top 12.

look at TAFC And TAD, They lost a whole session cause they dont have a bump. That's fair?
 
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