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Is Phoenix 92 TRULY the best NHRA National event Ever??

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Is Phoenix 92 TRULY the best NHRA National Event Ever?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 13.3%
  • There is a better event than Phoenix 92 (Reply with your Pick)

    Votes: 39 86.7%

  • Total voters
    45
  • Poll closed .
'09 Winternationals was truly the best NHRA event ever.
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Well, I suppose you'd have to have been at every National event since Labor Day, 1955 to know which was the best one of all.... so, since I don't know ANYBODY who's been to all of them, I'll have to assume that this is a "my favorite national event of all-time is:" subject.

In order to qualify as the BEST EVER national event, there should be reasons listed. It's easy for me:

1962 Indy was and is, my favorite, for the following reasons:

1. There were 1,200 race cars entered!!! 1,200!!!! Amazing, to me...

2. No cookie cutter cars; there were no two Top Eliminator cars that looked very much alike at all...

3. The variety of race cars was endless; the race was won (Top Elim.) by a Pontiac with hemi heads! Not your NHRA "spec motor" of today...

4. There were NO handicapped runs; EVERYTHING was "heads-up", with NO breakouts. Pure, unadulterated, Drag Racing.

5. Flag starts were still the way races were begun, and some of those flagmen had turned it into an art. Christmas trees are barren, and incredibly uninteresting, by comparison.

6. NHRA provided a very organized, professionally-run race, and there was very little down-time, as you might imagine with 1,200 cars to run off.

7. There were NO engine "explosions" because there was no nitro (not even any alcohol,) so, no lengthy track cleanup periods, like we have today with only t-shirt launchers to entertain you. Pretty much continuous excitement.

8. No runs were aborted because somebody "went up in smoke." All good racing...

9. The "Class Runoffs" in the high-visibility "Supercharged Gas Coupe" classes were between famous racers such as "Ohio" George Montgomery, and Stone, Woods, and Cook, (and other AG/S luminaries of the day.) I got to meet my hero, Californian John Edwards (Pitman-Edwards, B/GS) who seemed to have taught Stone/Woods/Cook how to run a Blown Olds/hydro in a '41 Willys. And, taught them well... Not often you get to meet your hero... made my day!

10. I was there as a crewman on a B/Altered. Got to meet "Dyno Don", who was pitted next to us. Nice, self-effacing, very humble guy. R.I.P., Don...

11. Either Mickey Thompson or Hayden Proffitt (can't remember which) had STUFFED a 421 Super Duty Pontiac motor into a (compact) '62 Tempest coupe and was running A/FX with it, which was a "first step" on the long road to the Funny Cars that were to come, a few years later. That was pretty exciting!

12. Didn't see a single "drunk." No alcohol was tolerated on the grounds.

13. "Ingenuity in action," NHRA's slogan back then, was everywhere. For example, I saw a C Street Roadster (Jan Reidel; Tiffin, Ohio) powered by an inline six that had a one-off, aluminum billet Hemi cylinder head on a 300cid Ford six. Ran like a V8! That was the tip of the iceberg as far as weirdo mechanical innovation went, at that race.

14. Since there were only two national meets per year back then, EVERYBODY, who was anybody, showed up to race! There were a TON of California cars, even though the Fuel ban was still "on."

15. Back then, there were lots of year-long rivalries that got settled at the Nationals. (It wasn't the "U.S. Nationals," yet.... just "The Nationals.") I remember watching several nationally-known competitors who were vying to be the fastest in their class, finally getting to prove who was REALLY the fastest!

B/Dragster had been the playground for unblown, Hilborn-injected, small block Chevys, with "Cheatin' Chico Breschini" from California and "Marino Monjure" from N'Awlins, both having supporters who claimed that their guy had the fastest B/D's in the nation. But, it was the innovative team of Starkey/Jent from Ohio, who emerged as the Class Champion with a high-winding, supercharged, de-stroked 283 Chevy motor, a heretofore untried combination in the class. Back then the addition of a supercharger would move your car up one class.... The Starkey/Jent car was a C/Dragster with an added GMC blower, so, it became a "B" car. That rule didn't last much longer, after that deal....

I won't bore you further, except to say that going to the Nationals back then was a lot more exciting for me, than it is, now. There was not the Draconian rule book that nowadays prohibits the kind of variety and innovation that made racing so fresh and exciting, back then.

No red-lights, breakouts, throttle stops, indexes, auto-start, transbrakes nor timers for ANYTHING.... you had to actually DRIVE the CAR! :) LOL!

Like I said; "drag racing." It doesn't get any better than that, for me.
As much as I love the nitro cars, I can say truthfully, they weren't missed. Turnaway crowds seemed to agree... You couldn't stir the people with a stick!

Guess you had to have been there....

Bill, in Conway, Arkansas
Bill...

YOU ARE THE MAN! Anyone who can mix in the word DRACONIAN in a nitromater post wins!
 
I too was at Dallas in '97, leaning on the fence not very far from the finish line when Cory ran 320. I could tell it was different from any other I'd seen, even before the numbers lit up on the scoreboard. It was a perfect pass.

You should have been my buddy Spike in the other lane! :eek: He was on a great pass (for him) as well, and he said that when CMac was pulling away that hard, he was wondering what broke..:D
 
Bill...

YOU ARE THE MAN! Anyone who can mix in the word DRACONIAN in a nitromater post wins!

Thanks, Tim... I think.

I couldn't think of another word that fit, nor described the tenor of that little book as aptly.

It's appalling, that Glendora's Ivory Tower Druids have turned the three-word slogan, "Ingenuity in action" into two words, without changing a single letter.

Draconian; that's what it is.... Downright Draconian!!!!
 
For me...most memorable was california nationals 89'. Dennis Forcelle's driving job to avoid hitting Amato, G.O. Flipping the car in round 2, and our super comp team beating Al Padron in round 1 for our first NHRA national event round win! Oh, i was 'grounded' for sneaking out to go to the drive-in movies the night before we left to go to that race, and had to watch all that historic race from the grandstands, and could not work on our car.
I remember that race!
 
My favorite race that I ever attended was the 92 Chief Nationals at Ennis when Cruz and Force about killed each other getting to the finish line.

My 2nd favorite was watching Eddie Hill run 4.99 at Ennis also in 1988.

I remember watching Gene Snow and Eddie Hill run side by side 4.90's at HRP back in between 89 to 91 sometime and I think, (probably wrong but hey I was only 10 or so) that it was the first ever side by side 4's. Anybody know for sure?

Also, as much as I hated to see it, Shoe's "Run" in Pomona at the finals.
AJ is the man.

See Bob Gilbertson win Houston was pretty cool also.
 
The best race for me was the 2000 Summitracing.com Nationals ... also known as the first race ever at "The Strip" at Las Vegas Motor Speedway.

I was so excited ... the big show was here ... in my backyard ... I no longer had to spend hours in a car or on a plane to see my heroes.

It is an altitude track, nothing that happened on the track was particularly exciting, Pro Stock times were downright pedestrian, they were just happy to dip into the 7.0s. Jim Epler won funny car in the WWE Kane flopper. Kenny Bernstein won Top Fuel. Jeggie won Pro Stock over the Professor, and the Professor is yet to collect that first Vegas Wally. In Qualifying, Dale Creasy Jr burned his beautiful Mad flopper to the ground, got out of the car and threw his gloves at the fire. Went to the pits to check on them a couple of hours later and they were having a "fire sale" ... as the only things they could salvage from the car were souvenirs to sell to us gawkers.

The star of the show was definitely the Strip itself. It has irrevocably altered the drag racing landscape from a spectator standpoint. From permanent grandstands in which all seats have backs and an unobstructed view of the whole track, to the tunnel that makes it easy to get from the spectator side to the pit side, commodius FREE parking, easy freeway access in and out, permanent luxury skyboxes, large paved pit areas, the ease of getting from the camper to the track, the constant air show compliments of Nellis AFB and the list goes on. IMO, it obsoleted almost every other track on the tour ...

Not so close runner-ups: Indy '07, first time I had been to Indy since I was a kid, World Finals '97 when Joe Amato gave Snoopy a ride to a national record ET 4.55 in the finals, Phoenix '99 when Tony Schu was the first to 330MPH my Dad and I thought the scoreboards were broke.
 
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INDY 1984 and the Big comeback. I still remember being excited and surprised to see Big's dually and trailer amongst the semis in the top fuel pits. What an incredible comeback and win. Also saw his last win--I believe the 87 Winternationals. I remember we went back to back years and also saw Gary Ormsby blow the blower off the radiacal top fuel car, and also got to see Darrell Gwynn win this first national event.
 
My 2 cents, The first race in Dallas in 86 was the best in my opinion even though i wasn't even born when it happened lol. I think it was the best because it was the debut of the first "super track". The performance was amazing with records breaking in most classes i think. Plus the top fuel final was amazing, with Big rising to the occasion to beat "the wolf" on a massive holeshot. That's the best in my book
 
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