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Is Phoenix 92 TRULY the best NHRA National event Ever??

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Is Phoenix 92 TRULY the best NHRA National Event Ever?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 13.3%
  • There is a better event than Phoenix 92 (Reply with your Pick)

    Votes: 39 86.7%

  • Total voters
    45
  • Poll closed .
E-Town '86.

'nuff said.

REX


10 Points if you can guess who got in as the alternate for Big Daddy.


I was there in Topeka 96 when Amato went 4.59 and Force went 4.88, that was cool.


Dallas 92 as some mentioned was pretty good. Lots of action.
Force/C-Ped final, Herbert blowover, and Oswald vs Cruz semi final was a great race, Oswald led 'till about 1200 feet, but got nipped when he turned the heater on just before the lights... Terrible end to the Petosa Bros. Daytona.

I don't remember why Phoenix 92 would stand up as a great race, Nothing comes to mind except it was the first ever live show for TNN.

Hard to pick a best race.. I have my own personal favorite races, but hard to pick a best one overall. :confused:
 
Not sure which would be first, but three of my faves are 82 Indy (Snake .63, Beck .48), 96 Topeka with the 50's, and 07 Pomona with "The Run".
 
Well one of the most memorable for me was the first, Inaugural (sp) national at HPT, the first nitro car to ever go down was Muldowny and she went 4.96 I believe followed shortly by a quickest ever 4.88 by Orsmsby.

But my pick for best ever was the year at HPT when force put the bounty out on the starting line for the first 4 by a funny and got beat to it shortly after by Etchels, then the first 300 by a funny was ran not long after that by Epler. What a fun race that was!

Keith,

I was at that race and am still in awe of what I saw. Your recount is correct. There was soooo much anticipation and drama over the first 4-second pass and the first 300 mph pass by a Funny Car you could have cut the air with a knife. It was cool to see Shirley make the first pass, but I remember watching Ormsby leave and knowing instantly that it was a special run. His car moved in the first 60' like no other fueler I'd seen at that time. He had both front tires around a foot in the air and barely got them settled down to complete the pass. The car was on the ragged edge and totally brought the house down. The standing ovation after that pass seemed to last for minutes. I'm reminded of that special pass when I turn left on to "Gary Ormsby Drive" each year. Special time for sure.
 
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10 Points if you can guess who got in as the alternate for Big Daddy.


I was there in Topeka 96 when Amato went 4.59 and Force went 4.88, that was cool.


Dallas 92 as some mentioned was pretty good. Lots of action.
Force/C-Ped final, Herbert blowover, and Oswald vs Cruz semi final was a great race, Oswald led 'till about 1200 feet, but got nipped when he turned the heater on just before the lights... Terrible end to the Petosa Bros. Daytona.

I don't remember why Phoenix 92 would stand up as a great race, Nothing comes to mind except it was the first ever live show for TNN.

Hard to pick a best race.. I have my own personal favorite races, but hard to pick a best one overall. :confused:

alternate - was it jerry marconi? i remember he pulled off the 180 degree turn at the end of the track when the 'chute did not open. that care was bouncing really bad through the shut down and he somehow pulled off the 180

E-town '94 for the 1st 6 and mike brotherton's 1st in the 4.60s
and the 92 reading event were historic races i was at.

since my parents were the ones who got me into racing, i would say any race they took me to, and given recent events, any event in which all of the participants are safe at the end of the day, would be my favorite events, no matter the historc signifigance ...
 
I need to go watch Drag Racing 92 to see what all the fuss is about.

OK, Alan was talking with tongue in cheek. Nothing happened on track that would justify this race being the best ever. Now, since I was watching I had to fast forward 2 races after Phoenix to relive one of the greatest moments in the sport's history. Watching the in car camera of Kenny Bernstein's car while he ran the first 300mph run just gave me chills down my spine. I am happy to say I witnessed the second 300mph run in E-Town a few months after Gainesville.

My personal best races of all time that I have personally witnessed go like this E-Town 94 KJ first in the 6's, I was rooting for Alderman and he came close with a 7.02 (I believe) and then Michael Brotherton came back in TF to be the first in the 60's in TF. The year after was also memorable due to Dixon setting the national record with a 4.66 and Al Hoffman ran 306. 98 E-Town was a show when Force came out of no where and ran 323. The Grove in 2001 was a good show, especially after 9/11, seeing the first 6.70 PS run, Tony Schumacher running 333, and Force setting the national record with a 4.73. I can go on and on with events in E-Town and the Grove where records were set.
 
Phoenix 92 was when Austin won TF & TAFC that year, Plus Tom Hoover defeating Richard Hartman, only other person I remember winning that year was David Rampy in Comp and that i remember from American Sports Cavalcade
after thinking about it for a bit, i have to agree with you. Its not everyday that a guy wins in both pro and sportsman classes at the same event. That was AWESOME...!
 
after thinking about it for a bit, i have to agree with you. Its not everyday that a guy wins in both pro and sportsman classes at the same event. That was AWESOME...!

It would have been awesome if it didn't happen the year before for the first time. I want to think it was the fall Topeka race when Pat doubled up for the first time.
 
OK, Alan was talking with tongue in cheek. Nothing happened on track that would justify this race being the best ever. Now, since I was watching I had to fast forward 2 races after Phoenix to relive one of the greatest moments in the sport's history. Watching the in car camera of Kenny Bernstein's car while he ran the first 300mph run just gave me chills down my spine. I am happy to say I witnessed the second 300mph run in E-Town a few months after Gainesville.

My personal best races of all time that I have personally witnessed go like this E-Town 94 KJ first in the 6's, I was rooting for Alderman and he came close with a 7.02 (I believe) and then Michael Brotherton came back in TF to be the first in the 60's in TF. The year after was also memorable due to Dixon setting the national record with a 4.66 and Al Hoffman ran 306. 98 E-Town was a show when Force came out of no where and ran 323. The Grove in 2001 was a good show, especially after 9/11, seeing the first 6.70 PS run, Tony Schumacher running 333, and Force setting the national record with a 4.73. I can go on and on with events in E-Town and the Grove where records were set.

I was there for all 3 big moments at E-town I was only 8 years old when Kurt Ran 6.98, 9 for 95, and 12 in 1998, I can't vote though because I made the poll, but thanks to you they are nominated for the final poll in 2 months after this one closes
 
Indy 25th anniversary. When Big Daddy brought out one of his old swamp rats and smoked the entire quarter mile. A great moment at a great race.
 
It would have been HISTORIC if it didn't happen the year before for the first time. I want to think it was the fall Topeka race when Pat doubled up for the first time.

i fixed it for you. Was historic the first time. Was AWESOME (the fact that many people called him Pat Awesome) when he did it again at ...firebird in 92!
 
Well, I suppose you'd have to have been at every National event since Labor Day, 1955 to know which was the best one of all.... so, since I don't know ANYBODY who's been to all of them, I'll have to assume that this is a "my favorite national event of all-time is:" subject.

In order to qualify as the BEST EVER national event, there should be reasons listed. It's easy for me:

1962 Indy was and is, my favorite, for the following reasons:

1. There were 1,200 race cars entered!!! 1,200!!!! Amazing, to me...

2. No cookie cutter cars; there were no two Top Eliminator cars that looked very much alike at all...

3. The variety of race cars was endless; the race was won (Top Elim.) by a Pontiac with hemi heads! Not your NHRA "spec motor" of today...

4. There were NO handicapped runs; EVERYTHING was "heads-up", with NO breakouts. Pure, unadulterated, Drag Racing.

5. Flag starts were still the way races were begun, and some of those flagmen had turned it into an art. Christmas trees are barren, and incredibly uninteresting, by comparison.

6. NHRA provided a very organized, professionally-run race, and there was very little down-time, as you might imagine with 1,200 cars to run off.

7. There were NO engine "explosions" because there was no nitro (not even any alcohol,) so, no lengthy track cleanup periods, like we have today with only t-shirt launchers to entertain you. Pretty much continuous excitement.

8. No runs were aborted because somebody "went up in smoke." All good racing...

9. The "Class Runoffs" in the high-visibility "Supercharged Gas Coupe" classes were between famous racers such as "Ohio" George Montgomery, and Stone, Woods, and Cook, (and other AG/S luminaries of the day.) I got to meet my hero, Californian John Edwards (Pitman-Edwards, B/GS) who seemed to have taught Stone/Woods/Cook how to run a Blown Olds/hydro in a '41 Willys. And, taught them well... Not often you get to meet your hero... made my day!

10. I was there as a crewman on a B/Altered. Got to meet "Dyno Don", who was pitted next to us. Nice, self-effacing, very humble guy. R.I.P., Don...

11. Either Mickey Thompson or Hayden Proffitt (can't remember which) had STUFFED a 421 Super Duty Pontiac motor into a (compact) '62 Tempest coupe and was running A/FX with it, which was a "first step" on the long road to the Funny Cars that were to come, a few years later. That was pretty exciting!

12. Didn't see a single "drunk." No alcohol was tolerated on the grounds.

13. "Ingenuity in action," NHRA's slogan back then, was everywhere. For example, I saw a C Street Roadster (Jan Reidel; Tiffin, Ohio) powered by an inline six that had a one-off, aluminum billet Hemi cylinder head on a 300cid Ford six. Ran like a V8! That was the tip of the iceberg as far as weirdo mechanical innovation went, at that race.

14. Since there were only two national meets per year back then, EVERYBODY, who was anybody, showed up to race! There were a TON of California cars, even though the Fuel ban was still "on."

15. Back then, there were lots of year-long rivalries that got settled at the Nationals. (It wasn't the "U.S. Nationals," yet.... just "The Nationals.") I remember watching several nationally-known competitors who were vying to be the fastest in their class, finally getting to prove who was REALLY the fastest!

B/Dragster had been the playground for unblown, Hilborn-injected, small block Chevys, with "Cheatin' Chico Breschini" from California and "Marino Monjure" from N'Awlins, both having supporters who claimed that their guy had the fastest B/D's in the nation. But, it was the innovative team of Starkey/Jent from Ohio, who emerged as the Class Champion with a high-winding, supercharged, de-stroked 283 Chevy motor, a heretofore untried combination in the class. Back then the addition of a supercharger would move your car up one class.... The Starkey/Jent car was a C/Dragster with an added GMC blower, so, it became a "B" car. That rule didn't last much longer, after that deal....

I won't bore you further, except to say that going to the Nationals back then was a lot more exciting for me, than it is, now. There was not the Draconian rule book that nowadays prohibits the kind of variety and innovation that made racing so fresh and exciting, back then.

No red-lights, breakouts, throttle stops, indexes, auto-start, transbrakes nor timers for ANYTHING.... you had to actually DRIVE the CAR! :) LOL!

Like I said; "drag racing." It doesn't get any better than that, for me.
As much as I love the nitro cars, I can say truthfully, they weren't missed. Turnaway crowds seemed to agree... You couldn't stir the people with a stick!

Guess you had to have been there....

Bill, in Conway, Arkansas
 
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Bill, in Conway, Arkansas

Bill,

You are so right except I liked it better after they allowed nitro! 70 or 80 top fuel dragsters all trying to qualify. Back then we all had as many chances as they could work in. Usually 6 or 8 and perhaps more.

Everyone showed up with a trailer full of bullets set on kill. We all hoped to have enought parts left after qualifing to put a bullet or two together for eliminations.

All the spectators needed hard hats because it rained parts all day long but no one minded the delays. Real characters showed up and every kind of practical joke and stunt was pulled.

For the racers it was the one race that all your friends and enemy's gathered in one spot for a show down.

PLUS NO COOKIE CUTTER RULES! Someone always showed up with a new trick that set them apart for the rest.
 
I don't know if I could pick my absolute fave, but two that come to mind pretty readily are:

a) '89 Indy (Thanks, Paul) - Gwynn's only Indy win coupled with the nat'l record & Prudhomme runnin' teens in the Flopper, gettin' the double up and setting the nat'l record as well.

b) '07 Pomona (2) - The Run... Love Schumacher or hate him, that was absolutely incredible!
 
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