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I was there
I have less interest in this grudge stuff than I do in Pro Stock.



A jackass move, totally agree, no wheelie bars, short car, giant blown motor, real track. The jackass move was letting him run at a national event by NHRA. Plain stupid, just my 2 cents
 
I used to attend 3 or 4 national events per year and now due to mobility and cost reasons I can only go to 1. I personally would love to see the widest and wildest mix of cars run at a national event, I find that very entertaining and I believe the casual fan would too. Way more entertaining to me than than a parade of throttle stop cars though I respect what they do. By the way I am still several years short of joining the "over 70" crowd and was involved in super stock world years ago (when I was younger and had a few dollars of disposable income)
 
Those cars are a joke! That's from the street outlaws show NHRA testing the waters.
With their plexiglass hood scoops looks like little aquariums!
You don't have crap like that at a national event!
All that does is promote illegal street racing with shows and crap like that!
 
Those cars are a joke! That's from the street outlaws show NHRA testing the waters.
With their plexiglass hood scoops looks like little aquariums!
You don't have crap like that at a national event!
All that does is promote illegal street racing with shows and crap like that!
HOW much was the fine for the oildown and how many precious points????
 
Those cars are a joke! That's from the street outlaws show NHRA testing the waters.
With their plexiglass hood scoops looks like little aquariums!
You don't have crap like that at a national event!
All that does is promote illegal street racing with shows and crap like that!

This ^^^^ kind of thinking is why NHRA is so far behind the times. Too many old school guys who could not/would not understand EFI and computers working for NHRA in the past It seems like they finally have some fresh minds willing to try something new. These cars are obviously no joke and why not tap into a show with high ratings.

And thanks Jim for helping me state my point.
 
Those cars are a joke! That's from the street outlaws show NHRA testing the waters.
With their plexiglass hood scoops looks like little aquariums!
You don't have crap like that at a national event!
All that does is promote illegal street racing with shows and crap like that!
National events needs to get rid of anything that has a throttle stop, any class where you can "break out", etc. Replace them with cars people want to actually pay money to come and see. There is sportsman races for all that other stuff.
 
HOW much was the fine for the oildown and how many precious points????
That's one of my gripes with the guys who are not regular NHRA competitors: they have no skin in the game; nothing to lose when stuff like that happens, thus no incentive to prevent it. They just pack up and go home leaving the mess to NHRA. I DO think NHRA bears some of the blame for this particular case, as they should have known better than to put that in the program just before fuel cars. And to allow it without wheelie bars. Those cars are used to slipping and sliding, so what happens when they run on a prepped track? They dead hook and go skyward!

I'm not saying there's not a place for those cars, just use some common sense!
 
National events needs to get rid of anything that has a throttle stop, any class where you can "break out", etc. Replace them with cars people want to actually pay money to come and see. There is sportsman races for all that other stuff.
Totally agree.

Rick
 
National events needs to get rid of anything that has a throttle stop, any class where you can "break out", etc. Replace them with cars people want to actually pay money to come and see. There is sportsman races for all that other stuff.


Just to be clear, you are saying to scrap Stock, Super Stock, Top Dragster and Top Sportsman?
Alan
 
National events needs to get rid of anything that has a throttle stop, any class where you can "break out", etc. Replace them with cars people want to actually pay money to come and see. There is sportsman races for all that other stuff.

I disagree. The people that pay to come to a national event are not staying the stands for these cars anyway, and they wouldn't stay in the stands for whatever you bring in to replace them. They don't stick around to watch TAD, Pro Mod, TAFC, Pro Stock or PSM, so I doubt they will stick around to watch whatever that was supposed to be that oiled the track in Sonoma.
 
The sportsman racers are built in commodity for the NHRA. Not only do they bring their cars, but they bring an entry fee, crews and extra people who also buy the same ticket you buy. These events are for entertainment and the sportsman racer are there for a different kind of entertainment. Don't like it, then go get another John Force autograph.

From what I've read and scene, many of those who were actually in the stand say that Monti's pass was one of the highlights of the day. And BTW, I personally am not of a fan of the Outlaw Street Grunge scene. But I would watch if I were there because: A) its racing; B) its different: C) they do have talent and; D) they're (cars and personalities) more diversified.
 
Nitro i fantasy racing, Grudge is real racing where it all started. If you are a true car guy, you built a car and hung out at the local place, Burger King, 231, Deer Park Ave, the Conduit, with all the other car guys looking for a race. Smart no, but it is what it is.

I am not promoting street racing, it is very stupid, have most of us done it, yes. Back in the 80's New York was like the 405 is now. The cars running on the Conduit behind JFK were 8-9 second 1/4 mile cars. Thousands of people lining the sides of the road, miracle there where not more killed.
 
I swear, I really don't get some of the comments around here sometimes. All I read is how bland racing has become, how all the drivers interviews are nothing more than sponsor-thanking infomercials. I see endless posts about how great racing used to be when we had some variety in racing, and how great the wild cars such as fuel altered were back in the day. So NHRA drags out a couple of really awesome cars (I wish I was there!) and it's like a bunch of old ladies around here! Please, if I'm wrong, say so, but here's my take: I happen to LIKE cars that take driver input. I happen to LIKE seeing something run that would just as soon wad up the guardrail (back when they had guardrails) as go straight. I like cars that look like real cars (like this Chevy II) that have too much horsepower. I sat through a 2 hour cleanup/repair last year at Seattle when Courtney Force re-arranged the wall and not one person here complained. But let something like this happen and everyone's an expert and wants NHRA to answer for this crime upon their sport.
 
National events needs to get rid of anything that has a throttle stop, any class where you can "break out", etc. Replace them with cars people want to actually pay money to come and see. There is sportsman races for all that other stuff.
So what kind of cars would you like to replace them with?

I personally am not a fan of the factory "stock" cars running on small tires. I watched a few of those and about every other one went up in smoke.
That is not something fun to watch...

I am a fan of the close racing in the sportsman classes.
 
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