nedannouncer
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George Bryce speaks his mind on the Pro Stock Bike Situation (1 Viewer)
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Professor Dave
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I think there are two solutions-the first is that the H-D parts be made available to all; the second is that Buell's be allowed 4-valve, overhead cam cylinder heads.
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And the Suzuki's be allowed 4 valve heads with the current CC's
sammi
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I think the time has come to roll all of them back to stock displacements. If Harley and Suzuki make a motor a given size, the race bikes need to be that size. Also, I want to see stock cases and heads.
Sad to see what NHRA's desire to create an income stream has done to the bikes. I feel no love for those hand built race bikes with Harley stickers, even though I own a Harley. Frankly, Bryce should be thankful NHRA doesn't come to S&S with a bill for $800k to run his "buell."
And one more thing, now that the governor is finally off the "Hines" , you have to wonder if the Harley deal with Vance and Hines and NHRA is about to sunset.
Sad to see what NHRA's desire to create an income stream has done to the bikes. I feel no love for those hand built race bikes with Harley stickers, even though I own a Harley. Frankly, Bryce should be thankful NHRA doesn't come to S&S with a bill for $800k to run his "buell."
And one more thing, now that the governor is finally off the "Hines" , you have to wonder if the Harley deal with Vance and Hines and NHRA is about to sunset.
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sdwarf36
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Funny thing-the Suzuki motor used in PSB actually started as a 4 valve. 100 years ago
, when it was Kawasaki vs. Suzuki, the 4 valve Suzuki had a performance advantage over the 2 valve Kawi's. So the rule was re-written to allow more displacement for 2 valve engines. Okay...racers being racers, Some smart Suzuki team (Star? V+H?) decided to make a 2 valve combo to take advantage of more CC's. The combo caught on-and thats (all) we have racing now. Sooo..we have:
a 2 valve Suzuki-that was 4 valve in real life
a 4 valve ohc v-twin V-Rod that is a 4 valve ohc in r/l (but WAS a 2 valve pushrod in the begining of its drag career)
a 2 valve pushrod v-twin Buell that was a 2 valve pushrod v-twin
Personally, I think they just need to take some displacement from the V-Rod.
Remember who the "offical motorcycle of NHRA" was before Harley? Suzuki. Who I think the extent was a bunch of 100cc bikes for the crew to ride around on. They didn't see PSB as an effective maketing tool -having 1981 engines racing in modern times.
unfortunately the NHRA enjoys running a crooked class and until another manufacture invests in the class. This could be a good class, but oh well. I can also see that today's wednesday and the NHRA does not care to make anything close to a parity update. Just as I expected. For the record V&H are still good guys, it's NHRA that is CLEARLY showing another harley can win the title uncontested. I predict the countdown will kill a 300 point lead but they will go to to win the title by 150.
How much HP would that give them?
Paul
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I think George summarizes the situation very clearly, its hard to dispute any statement he makes in that article.
Its a very hard to fathom situation that I don't think has every occurred in any other form of motorsports.
There certainly have been times when the engine rules favored a particular brand.
But there has never been a time when the engine rules favored a particular brand and only one team was allowed any access to that brand's engine parts.
I'll never be able understand why the NHRA allowed this situation to occur, selling your credibility for $800k a year just isn't worth it.
Exactly. What's next? One of NHRA Brass' family members starts a nitro team and are the only team approved to run traction control? Dare I say it? Sorry I may of started a war because I'm sure people think it's being done now since it has skeptically been done.
90-percent
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Our institutions are infested with greedy and corrupt sociopaths.
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TooTall999
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The lack of parity has caused Koretsky to drop sponsorship of LE Tonglet. Great job, NHRA! /sarc
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Paul
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That would be pretty fun to watch, I guess it would get out of control eventually and would have to be reeled in but it would be cool to watch them get to that point.
I think it would also get average fans interested in the class again.
Unfortunately no chance it would every happen unless Vince McMahon buys the NHRA and turns it into the XHRA, man, could you imagine the back up girls if that happened.
The lack of parity has caused Koretsky to drop sponsorship of LE Tonglet. Great job, NHRA! /sarc
Motorcycle Street & Strip MagazineNitro Fish drops sponsorship of LE Tonglet?s Pro Stock Bike - MS&S Exclusive
He will for sure not be the only one. Either the rules get fixed, another manufacture invests or this class is going to die. I see it dying before any of the first 2 happen. Even a 40-60 pound slap would not fix the issue, but it would help it.
The lack of parity has caused Koretsky to drop sponsorship of LE Tonglet. Great job, NHRA! /sarc
Motorcycle Street & Strip MagazineNitro Fish drops sponsorship of LE Tonglet?s Pro Stock Bike - MS&S Exclusive
Brent, you never answered my earlier question?
