my friends call me Zappy
Nitro Member
I get not holding up the other car. But Cruz was ready to fire right after the single, why not let him run. In one swift move NHRA screwed Cruz, his sponsors, & the fans. A tri-fecta.
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Cruz cheated out of his run, why ?
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Really? Cruz was supposed to be running at the same time Creasy was, but he didn't make it up there on time. So based on what you are saying, the NHRA should cater to teams and let them run whenever they get the chance to get up to the starting line?
This wasn't an NHRA issue, it was a Cruz Pedregon issue.
my friends call me Zappy
Nitro Member
No, not when ever he wants, but it was still during fc qualifying, he was up there & ready, why not give him a chance to get data just like the rest of the field?
none
Nitro Member
Paul,
You say "He was up there & ready" Not true, had he been up there and ready he would have fired the same time Creasy did. He was late and not ready, not by much, but he was late. Do you watch football? when the play clock expires you get the penalty. "But I was going to snap the ball in a second" doesn't matter, time runs out and that's the rule.
Here's the facts. Cruz ran Q1 second quad at 5:22 Creasy made his solo in Q2 at 7:09 that an hour and 47 minutes, or 107 minutes. So don't blame live TV for a quick turnaround. They had enough time. Cruz had a problem in the pits and missed the call.
Alan
You say "He was up there & ready" Not true, had he been up there and ready he would have fired the same time Creasy did. He was late and not ready, not by much, but he was late. Do you watch football? when the play clock expires you get the penalty. "But I was going to snap the ball in a second" doesn't matter, time runs out and that's the rule.
Here's the facts. Cruz ran Q1 second quad at 5:22 Creasy made his solo in Q2 at 7:09 that an hour and 47 minutes, or 107 minutes. So don't blame live TV for a quick turnaround. They had enough time. Cruz had a problem in the pits and missed the call.
Alan
Alan, Quick question. Even though the line goes faster as to waiting to run once in the lanes with the 4 wide format, Are you still allowed to continue working on your car in the staging lanes other than a pulley swap, clutch weight adjustment? Obviously they can do their final computer mapping there but any other work that has not been completed during the turn around?
Correct. To bad the "ink is never dry" policy manual exceptions are always based on who is involved. Not what is right.
ironpony
Nitro Member
I was going to add unless you are a high dollar sponsor/racer, but thought that would fire to many maters up....
HD Force........
TF CREW
Nitro Member
Does not make a bit of difference whom you are, if your not fired and ready to roll when it is your time
during Q1 thru Q4 you don't get to go to the end of the line period
my friends call me Zappy
Nitro Member
Your football comparison doesn't work. This was qualifying / practice if you will. Had this been during eliminations, yes, not ready, when the fire up signal is given, Creasy gets a bye . But during a Q session, what would it have hurt to let him make his pass ??
Part of me wants to agree with you on the part about why not let him run. But the fact is he was late.
NHRA did not screw anyone here.
Rules are rules...
MM
Nitro Member
Because it would have given Cruz a benefit he did not earn. The run order of the second qualifying session is based upon performance in the first qualifying session. Cruz was scheduled to be in the first pair of cars because of his sub par performance in Q1, so why should he be given the benefit of seeing a car run because he was late arriving to the starting line for his scheduled run? All of the other competitors would have a legitimate gripe had that occurred.
This time they went by the book and we agreed it was the right thing to do.. I was not talking about a qualifying pass. I was talking about rules not being enforced or changed in the past. And it does make a difference who is involved.
With Fuel teams today. These guys have it calculated down to how much fuel they need on a typical pass and if you have 1 person who wastes too much time to fire up their car, burnout, back up too slow and stage while the other person(s) "4 wides" are staged and ready, Well the person(s) are out of fuel before the 1000 ft. mark and blow up their motor (engine) all because they had to wait. What I'm guessing is, Some teams rely on the amount of fuel they put in the car or dragster as a benefit as a fuel loss to overall weight ratio but if you wait too long then you are underweight at the scales also. I might be wrong but it makes sense. If you look at a P/S car they hit the parachutes quite a bit before the finish line to shed weight off the car for better et and mph but that weight comes back when they put the chutes on the back of the car unlike a fuel car, their additional weight is gone thru burnt nitro.
none
Nitro Member
Qualifying and practice are completely different things. Practice doesn't officially count. Qualifying does.
The rules are the same for qualifying as racing. The fact is, It was time to start the car, Cruz wasn't ready so he didn't get the run.
Alan
Randy
Nitro Member
The sessions are scheduled just like eliminations are. When they call you to the lanes, it's time to go. When they say "Fire them up," it's time. You open a real can of worms if you make concessions. There are a lot of cars and classes back in the pits on what would be considered tight schedules. Cruz knows the rules.
