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lol...........

mike,
i have to ask; you make these comments on the 'mater's dying' thread
Yep, that is true. And because of certain members, some with stupidly big heads, also some mods who will move threads around, and a few other things, really put me off posting here. Only reason why I still check in on here, is to PM a buddy, and look at some of the great photography posted on here. This forum did lose it's vibe, because I sure haven't lost my love for Drag Racing.
now with your first post in this thread you respond to mr. kuburich's post
by saying "lol........"

i guess i too am asking, 'what is that well thought out response
supposed to mean'.
 
Mike V is a wise man.....:D

You know it bro! See here's my thinking, if kb was to approach cat, and say they were interested, I doubt, they'll be waiting around for someone, who doesn't have a ride anymore! Are you trying to tell me that cat is waiting for things to get better, then give rod a call? I heard bernstien is going with komatsu anyway ha ha ha
 
In my opinion if the Busch family was still in control of AB this marketing program would continue on.

When we built Peggy Llewelyn's team in 2007 I used Kenny Bernstein's team as a model for ours. Truck and trailer always cleaned inside and out, never know who is watching you or who might just happen to stop by your pit area. Crew members ALWAYS dressed in proper team apparel and clean shaven.

If you want a company to invest in your team, invest in yourself.

I believe Kenny will find another great marketing partner and continue on with his company. Brandon is a great spokesman and has the best teacher in the business to rely on.

Very interesting.
 
You know it bro! See here's my thinking, if kb was to approach cat, and say they were interested, I doubt, they'll be waiting around for someone, who doesn't have a ride anymore! Are you trying to tell me that cat is waiting for things to get better, then give rod a call? I heard bernstien is going with komatsu anyway ha ha ha

If Cat was still willing to put up the $$$ why doesn't Hot Rod have a ride? Wouldn't someone who has extra cars and say big airplanes or lots of battery chargers just sign him up and put him in one. If I was an owner that would seem to be the logical move.

So, to me the only thing that makes sense is Cat is either out completely or they are looking to take their $$$ elsewhere.
 
You know it bro! See here's my thinking, if kb was to approach cat, and say they were interested, I doubt, they'll be waiting around for someone, who doesn't have a ride anymore! Are you trying to tell me that cat is waiting for things to get better, then give rod a call? I heard bernstien is going with komatsu anyway ha ha ha
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What I originally said was that CAT did not approach KB. KB went to CAT. Bennett's rumor implied CAT was interested. They're not.
Personally, I don't care who KB goes with. But I know for certain it will not be CAT.
 
hmmm, lets see. I know the economy is as bad as its been BUT is money the only issue?

I, for one, think this should be a real shot in the arm for the folks at the NHRA as was Jagermeister, Miller and CAT, and others biggies,
These companies stepped up in a big way and brought a real SHOW to the NHRA. Look at the great hospitality they provided. Now gone.
Like you all have said, love him or hate him, he has kept a solid non traditional sponsor in this sport for almost 30 yrs which is awesome.
Non Traditional sponsors are the key to NHRA growth, how many times are the same automotive sponsors gonna switch teams? Same deal, different team= boring zzzzzzzzzzzz
Every team who has ever searched for money has called on these same handfull of automotive related sponsors(imagine being on the other end of these calls from teams? Yikes)

I feel sorry for the guys and girls on these teams who are let go, hopefully they will land with another team.
 
It has been alledged that................Cat got burned BAD in the Powers deal. Has nothing to do with Hot Rod but to say it left a bad taste in their mouth would be an understatement. They are still on board with trying to help him out althought the economy hasnt helped. Nowhere has KB been mentinoed. It has also been alledged that Rod is trying to buy the equipment from the above owner but the price is slightly inflated.
 
OK. Correct me if I am wrong but my understanding of the CAT deal was to recruit technicians during the boom to help overcome worker shortages. When the bottom fell out of the economy, they were laying people off and it made no sense to keep up the recruiting program???????? :confused:
 
I think some of you are missing the point regarding A-B (and now InBev) and Bernstein.

First, no one, and I mean no one, has ever come close to Kenny's marketing and public relations abilities and successes. Winning races is one thing, but what happens away from the track continues to be far more important than what happens on it.

Relatively small TV ratings (whether we like facing that or not), minimal print coverage and spectator turnouts that, while seemingly good, don't knock the socks off of corporate types, all combine to continue to make drag racing a tough sell. Bernstein overcame all of that and has enjoyed a 30 year relationship with one single entity. Nobody else in motorsports can make that claim.

To give you but a small inkling of Kenny's professionalism, AFTER the announcement was made that there wouldn't be a renewal, his team put out a detailed release outlining all of the positive things that they'd accomplished WITH Budweiser, not FOR Budweiser.

In terms of race victories and personal honors, few can match Kenny's championships, his breaking of the 300 mph barrier, his having been named not only Person of the Year on the old Car Craft All-Star Drag Racing Team, but he and Dale Armstrong were the first to be paired with the Ollie Award, the most prestigious honor in drag racing.

Brandon has also performed admirably, and has won numerous national events.

Please don't forget that his father went for years without winning, often failing to even qualify. He had to LEARN how to race and then LEARN how to win, and Brandon is following that same path.

The other thing that has been widely noted in various beverage industry publications is that InBev does not appear to understand or know how to market beer to the American marketplace. We are not Europe or South America, and people choose and stick with brands here for different reasons than they do in other countries. InBev apparently doesn't understand that, and their cutbacks and executive dismissals have left them without the internal expertise to provide recommendations to overcome their declining sales. All they seem to know is that they're losing market share, and rather than aggressively market those products and fight for market share, they prefer to make more and more cutbacks. Eventually you become self-defeating by following that path, but that's for someone else to prove, not me.

Lastly, concerning other teams and other sponsorships, I think much of what's been talked about in this thread is without credibility. If you consider, for example, that it takes at least $2.5M to be really competitive for a T/F championship, that does not happen with one-off sponsorships from regional dealerships -- unless you're naive enough to believe that those dealerships were forking over at least $100,000 for a single weekend's exposure, and that there are deals in place for all 24 races. The ROI - Return On Investment -- for a regional dealership is simply not there at $100,000. It might be at $50K for a weekend, and is more likely at $25K.

Just something to keep in mind.

Jon Asher
 
Well said, Jon. Kenny and his staff showed the entire motorsports world how to market their sponsors (rather than vice versa which seems to be the biggest misconception amongst fans) and achieved more with A-B than many of us ever dreamed.
 
another first round loss,shiny truck, pretty pit crew,hot wife doesn`t mean **** on the track...
Another first round loss? By my stats it is their first of the year. If I am not mistaken they are third in the points and have 2 runner ups and they are ahead of the team everyone thought was going to run away with the championship this year. I would say they are doing pretty good and if they keep running the way they are they will win some races this year and contend for the title.
 
The other thing that has been widely noted in various beverage industry publications is that InBev does not appear to understand or know how to market beer to the American marketplace. We are not Europe or South America, and people choose and stick with brands here for different reasons than they do in other countries. InBev apparently doesn't understand that, and their cutbacks and executive dismissals have left them without the internal expertise to provide recommendations to overcome their declining sales. All they seem to know is that they're losing market share, and rather than aggressively market those products and fight for market share, they prefer to make more and more cutbacks. Eventually you become self-defeating by following that path, but that's for someone else to prove, not me.

there are trade publications accusing in-bev of mismanaging it's USA brands?
any sources for this information?
 
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