Assisted Throttles in Nitro Classes-Are Drivers Obsolete??

[ironpony]

don't forget ray charles

IIRC Jim Head painted Ray on the hood of his car

 

[Flicka]

Wanna save money, take your 120 gallon fuel pump and throw it in the trash.

Tony I would like to shake your hand on that one

 

[65 Goatboy]

https://competitionplus.com/the-new-device-that-has-the-nhra-nitro-drag-racing-pits-divided/
Opinions? It sounds like the approved device has quietly been in use for a while and takes another important function away from the driver. Should we just run R/C cars?

NO NO NO

 

[stitcherbob]

The NHRA could never find it but John Force has been wearing a traction control device for years on his person. Nowadays it helps him get around the pits….

Reportedly….. it’s shaped like a….. shoe

 

[Jim]

Should we just run R/C cars?

Then they could go back to 1320 feet.

 

[65 Goatboy]

So is Hagan running the device too?

 

[sfw1960]

Just playing Devil's advocate here.
This sounds kind of like a throttle stop on the burnout. Trying to keep from over revving the engine and blowing it up.

Alan

Clay hasn't used one of those in "A little while" has he Alan?
Langdon is right IMO.

 

[mgty3whlr]

Clay hasn't used one of those in "A little while" has he Alan?
Langdon is right IMO.

Nope. Clay doesn't use throttle stops.

 

[none]

Clay uses a burnout stop. Every car in the pits does.

Alan

 

[CS]

To quote the late great Bill "grumpy" Jenkins in a 1973 Time article said "A monkey can drive one of these things down a straight track" He said it in reference to the lenco 4 speed entering P/S. WJ repeated it somewhat in 2008 when he said "I could train a monkey to drive the car. I still enjoy the development side".

My .02 is the crew and crew chief set up the car, it's the drivers job to get it down track. Throttle stops on a burn out and the new throttle anti WOT pedal device are both crutches, make the drivers earn their keep. next someone with big dollars will want to make an autonomous t/f or f/c claiming its a safety factor to keep the driver from running over the timing blocks or hitting the wall.

 

[Butch]

Nope. Clay doesn't use throttle stops.

Clay doesn't use a clutch pedal stop

 

[mgty3whlr]

I misunderstood. I thought I heard him mention that he doesn't use it.

 

[z28]

I misunderstood. I thought I heard him mention that he doesn't use it.

when Klober had the car there was no throttle stop. Maybe Jim O put one on.

 

[sfw1960]

That's why I referred it to Alan, he knows better than many folks & has been a wealth of knowledge for decades.

 

[none]

From the YouTube feed Friday. You can see it being installed.
Alan

 

[GumbyWVU]

The NHRA could never find it but John Force has been wearing a traction control device for years on his person. Nowadays it helps him get around the pits….

Reportedly….. it’s shaped like a….. shoe

It worked so well he actually used two, LOL.

 

[GumbyWVU]

To quote the late great Bill "grumpy" Jenkins in a 1973 Time article said "A monkey can drive one of these things down a straight track" He said it in reference to the lenco 4 speed entering P/S. WJ repeated it somewhat in 2008 when he said "I could train a monkey to drive the car. I still enjoy the development side".

My .02 is the crew and crew chief set up the car, it's the drivers job to get it down track. Throttle stops on a burn out and the new throttle anti WOT pedal device are both crutches, make the drivers earn their keep. next someone with big dollars will want to make an autonomous t/f or f/c claiming its a safety factor to keep the driver from running over the timing blocks or hitting the wall.

Interestingly, wasn't it very recently that Tony Stewart conceded that driving a PS car was more difficult than he thought? Coming from a former NASCAR driver I thought that was a unique take on it.

 

[Harry]

I think its time for a new engine package in the fuel classes. Thinking long term survival and quarter mile racing, this cannot continue. Blower size fuel pump size and dual mags. They all need to be reduced. The costs are unsustainable. We only have 8 or so teams that can run for the season championships. I'd rather change the combo than lose fuel racing. I remember the 70s when racers MADE money!

 

[camaro]

To quote the late great Bill "grumpy" Jenkins in a 1973 Time article said "A monkey can drive one of these things down a straight track" He said it in reference to the lenco 4 speed entering P/S. WJ repeated it somewhat in 2008 when he said "I could train a monkey to drive the car. I still enjoy the development side". . . .

Ok, so maybe a monkey can be trained to drive one of these cars, but i'd like to see someone try and teach him how to cut .000 - .020 lights which is a requirement in PS

 

[Butch]

I think its time for a new engine package in the fuel classes. Thinking long term survival and quarter mile racing, this cannot continue. Blower size fuel pump size and dual mags. They all need to be reduced. The costs are unsustainable. We only have 8 or so teams that can run for the season championships. I'd rather change the combo than lose fuel racing. I remember the 70s when racers MADE money!

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