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A lot of empty seats.......

And a lot of hardcore NASCAR fans hate the race. Too wide, straights too long, not tight enough for the usual bump and grind racing.
 
And a lot of hardcore NASCAR fans hate the race. Too wide, straights too long, not tight enough for the usual bump and grind racing.

The brickyard has always been a boring race a majority of the time. I think the best Nascar can offer is in the truck series, you actually get good racing there. Sad that series gets the lowest attendance of all.
 
The brickyard has always been a boring race a majority of the time. I think the best Nascar can offer is in the truck series, you actually get good racing there. Sad that series gets the lowest attendance of all.

This is one of the few times I am inclined to agree with you. Best NASCAR type race I ever saw was the truck race finale at Vegas in 98 or 99, Hornaday and Skinner beat each other up all day, but never wrecked each other, and the charge to the finish line was wild. Hornaday won the race, but Skinner won the title and then they did doughnuts in the infield together. Was truly awesome.

Announced attendance for yesterday's NNS was 40,000 ... But they gave a large percentage of those tickets away. I have recently moved back to Kentucky and was in Lowes yesterday, and they had a buy one ticket get one free ticket deal for today's Cup race at Indy.
 
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I have to agree. Yesterday's race attendance was also embarrassing. Nice to see not just the NHRA is hurting, nice to know the problem is just not with our sport.
NASCAR radio guesstimated yesterdays crowd to be right around 40,000, which would have been larger than most Nationwide races. It looks sparse because it seats over 257,000. That is hardly embarrassing.

Bottom line is, it's too big a venue for the product.
 
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And a lot of hardcore NASCAR fans hate the race. Too wide, straights too long, not tight enough for the usual bump and grind racing.

Besides the fact the track itself is a horrible place to watch a race. There are so many obstructions, there is nowhere inside that offers a full view of the track. If you sit in a corner as I did for my first NASCAR race in '97 (sat in turn 1), you can see the track just before the start/finish line and thru turns 1 & 2, and that's it. We watched some practice from the main grandstand and many cars hug the wall, so all you see is the roof of the car (oh, so that's why they put numbers on the roof...). Imagine going to a drag race and seeing the starting line and out to the 330' timers, before obstructions take over. There's a reason NASCAR built so many tracks in the D-shaped oval. If you sit high enough (even at Daytona or Talladega), you can see the cars around the entire track. Mind you, the cars seem like they're miles away when they're on the backstretch, but you can see them.
 
In a series that is becoming increasingly boring, Indy is one of the most boring tracks, so that's saying something. By a large margin, the best racing in NASCAR is the truck series, which is why I ditched eliminations at April's 4 wide to go to the Rock.

Attendance has been a big problem at almost all nascar tracks for a few years now. I don't think they sold any tickets at all for the backstretch grandstands at Daytona for the cup race. I think that popularity plateaued in the late 90's, and track owners assumed that demand would keep up with seating, which of course it hasn't.
 

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