Ways to lose a single?

[none]

That would go back to the Bob Bode rule.

Years ago in Vegas, Bode (SR.) was racing John Force. Bode left before the tree, when John heard Bob go, he instinctively hit the gas. and left before the tree as well. Both were DQed, that was the rule at the time.

John argued that it should be First/Worst and the Bob very obviously left first (had the worse of the early leaves) but the rule was "If you leave before the tree you are a DQ."

The rule was changed to "If one car obviously leaves first and draws the other off, the car leaving first is out, the second is reinstated."

I didn't see the Charlotte run.
If all cars staged, three left early and one took the tree: the one that got the tree advances along with the last of the three to leave. Assuming that can be determined by replay.

Alan

 

[GumbyWVU]

That would go back to the Bob Bode rule.

Years ago in Vegas, Bode (SR.) was racing John Force. Bode left before the tree, when John heard Bob go, he instinctively hit the gas. and left before the tree as well. Both were DQed, that was the rule at the time.

John argued that it should be First/Worst and the Bob very obviously left first (had the worse of the early leaves) but the rule was "If you leave before the tree you are a DQ."

The rule was changed to "If one car obviously leaves first and draws the other off, the car leaving first is out, the second is reinstated."

I didn't see the Charlotte run.
If all cars staged, three left early and one took the tree: the one that got the tree advances along with the last of the three to leave. Assuming that can be determined by replay.

Alan

I think there was something very similar to the Force/Bode story above that took place years ago, in Columbus, in Pro-Stock......a double-DQ. Seems like Bruce Allen was one and I can't recall the other driver......either they both took off way early or were DQ-d by the starter for not staging, only pre-staging. Pretty fuzzy memory now. But I suppose in either case a single pass wasn't involved.

 

[none]

There was a situation in Topeka a in 2021 (I think) E1 when Mason MaGaha and Bruno Massel engaged in a burndown, and the starter repeatedly signaled both to stage. They both refused to move and both were disqualified.

There is no rule about who has to stage first. But there is a rule about failing to follow the starter's orders.

Like when Tony Schumacher didn't shut off when the starter instructed him in Pomona 2006.

Alan

 

[Nappy]

There was a situation in Topeka a in 2021 (I think) E1 when Mason MaGaha and Bruno Massel engaged in a burndown, and the starter repeatedly signaled both to stage. They both refused to move and both were disqualified.

There is no rule about who has to stage first. But there is a rule about failing to follow the starter's orders.

Like when Tony Schumacher didn't shut off when the starter instructed him in Pomona 2006.

Alan

Yep, he didn't follow orders. But he still was allowed that run and it should have been thrown out. We all know what happened after that.

 

[none]

It was qualifying. That run was thrown out (not that it mattered, he smoked the tires) and was fined $25K

Alan

 

[Nappy]

It was qualifying. That run was thrown out (not that it mattered, he smoked the tires) and was fined $25K

Alan

I thought at the time it happened they said he should have be disqualified from the event for not obeying the starter. I could be wrong though. Thanks for your input on it ! I always appreciate your insight.