Tuner or Crew Chief? (1 Viewer)
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Nitrohelper
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Actually it's the "Seasoned Veteran", the job description is --- Nitro & Nozzles - nothing Hot or Heavy...
Plus my warranty is "don't expect a lot and you won't be disappointed"...
TF CREW
Nitro Member
NO its just the way that team was set up.
TF CREW
Nitro Member
AHHH I have been around awhile I know who and what titles are.... I was a car chief
Just throwing out an example of a diffrent situation on a particular team..where one had nothing to do with the other.
Heavyhauler
Nitro Member
Kieth I think you have the basic principles covered in that the individual car operation has evolved to a level that one person is overwhelmed by the complexity of a contemporary nitro car operation.
One manager overseeing the service of the car between round and pre race set up and preparation.
A second management personal evaluation the operation of the car, weighing track surface conditions, weather conditions, historical data of past racetrack performance combined with the potential of the current tune-up.
Now the second manager type combines the input from the first person's report, input from the historical database compensates for any changes mandated from the damage/performance evaluation from the prior run, make appropriate changes to the tune-up and/or clutch to suite the desired goals, weather that is to maintain the status quot or improve performance levels.
A change in the environmentals just from the time of day will require an adjustment in the set-up just to run the same ET. The two management types will always discuss the options, and soliciting experienced department heads opinion. In the multi car team environment the resources are enhanced by the shear volume of personal. The baseline being the same for all the team cars gives a big advantage, as the data base grows exponentially. So your .250 second drive-shaft speed numbers are easily referenced to how close to the edge you are on that given day.
So Crew Chief, Tuner, Car Chief, are Titles and historically the Crew Chief is the guy getting the biggest pay check and that's where it all stops and starts on race day.
One manager overseeing the service of the car between round and pre race set up and preparation.
A second management personal evaluation the operation of the car, weighing track surface conditions, weather conditions, historical data of past racetrack performance combined with the potential of the current tune-up.
Now the second manager type combines the input from the first person's report, input from the historical database compensates for any changes mandated from the damage/performance evaluation from the prior run, make appropriate changes to the tune-up and/or clutch to suite the desired goals, weather that is to maintain the status quot or improve performance levels.
A change in the environmentals just from the time of day will require an adjustment in the set-up just to run the same ET. The two management types will always discuss the options, and soliciting experienced department heads opinion. In the multi car team environment the resources are enhanced by the shear volume of personal. The baseline being the same for all the team cars gives a big advantage, as the data base grows exponentially. So your .250 second drive-shaft speed numbers are easily referenced to how close to the edge you are on that given day.
So Crew Chief, Tuner, Car Chief, are Titles and historically the Crew Chief is the guy getting the biggest pay check and that's where it all stops and starts on race day.
BaldyLochs
Nitro Member
This reminds me of George Carlin's masterful comedic piece he did one time, addressing the the title of Airline Captain.
TF CREW
Nitro Member
apparently not the exception:
Sean Barnes said: ↑
Not always necessarily the same thing.
I have been part of fuel teams where as there is a " tuner " that makes the set up decisions, and a crew chief who's duties were to over see the crew,. make sure that everything was ready to go to and at the races. Was in charge of all between race maintenance and so on
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Darr Hawthorne
Yours appears to be the exception.
DRO: Clutch stuff. Most people assume that one guy does the clutch and one guy tunes the engine. They don’t realize that they both have to work together or be just one person.
DW: What we have going on here now-a-days is that we have crew chiefs, but they’re actually tuners and then there’s an actual crew chief who runs the crew and makes sure the car is bolted together properly. In the end, it all has to come down to one guy’s decision on the tune up. He has to have all the input of what’s going on. We can wait until nearly 30 minutes before run time and then make a head gasket call and throw it together.
Sean Barnes said: ↑
Not always necessarily the same thing.
I have been part of fuel teams where as there is a " tuner " that makes the set up decisions, and a crew chief who's duties were to over see the crew,. make sure that everything was ready to go to and at the races. Was in charge of all between race maintenance and so on
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Darr Hawthorne
Yours appears to be the exception.
DRO: Clutch stuff. Most people assume that one guy does the clutch and one guy tunes the engine. They don’t realize that they both have to work together or be just one person.
DW: What we have going on here now-a-days is that we have crew chiefs, but they’re actually tuners and then there’s an actual crew chief who runs the crew and makes sure the car is bolted together properly. In the end, it all has to come down to one guy’s decision on the tune up. He has to have all the input of what’s going on. We can wait until nearly 30 minutes before run time and then make a head gasket call and throw it together.
