Regarding edwards, krisher 2nd rd.

[BigDaddyB]

what i can get about you guys is that you will accept something with flaws but will not tolerate it any other sport. Its amazing if someone steps up for right they the get shot straight thru the heart. Well I'm not going anywhere I will be here. You don't accept less from your children. Well I don't accept less from an organization I pay dues to and honor it just like people think that NBA, NFL, MLB, NASCAR, or anything other sports authority is the best in the world.

 

[JB3]

what i can get about you guys is that you will accept something with flaws but will not tolerate it any other sport. Its amazing if someone steps up for right they the get shot straight thru the heart. Well I'm not going anywhere I will be here. You don't accept less from your children. Well I don't accept less from an organization I pay dues to and honor it just like people think that NBA, NFL, MLB, NASCAR, or anything other sports authority is the best in the world.

I guess that's where we will differ. You see I am a fairly rabid football, baseball, and motorsports fan including NHRA membership since 1982 when I was 15. However, outcomes of games / races involving my favorite teams doesn't affect my life in any way. Game ends, I am off to do something else. I can walk away from this entertainment at any time with little or no emotional investment.

And as for my son ... the number one thing I have taught him (and still teach him) and any of the kids I have coached is that the Coach, Umpire, Referee, Official, Teacher, Principle or who ever is in charge has the finally say. At no time do I ever think its ok for him to challenge the system. All I ask of him is to give his best effort at whatever he does and always respect those in authority ... plain and simple.

With that ... I am going to walk away from this thread because I have something I would rather be doing than continue to watch this horse be whipped any longer.

 

[BigDaddyB]

I've been in the world since 1947 an I think authority is sometimes highly over rated.

 

[d'kid]

I've been in the world since 1947 an I think authority is sometimes highly over rated.

NFL, MLB, NBA, NHRA, UDRA, NCAA, Ect,

It's their game, you ask to play by their rules, (subject to their interpretation) on their terms...

'THEY' don't need 'YOU', in fact, they don't even know you 'exist' and could giving a fly 'rats arse', even if you are a 'member'. Membership and $3 will get you a Full Throttle at the local 7/11, your card, the discount coupon, and $$$ will get you a general admission @ the track.

Membership does not give you voting rights, and honestly, if the 'unwashed masses' voted on every rules change, who is the 'starter', the 'event director', the 'tech guys', it would take a month to run an 'Event'. 'Membership' is a 48 issue subscription to National Dragster and a hat pin, along with a bunch of useless coupons for car rentals and hotels.

"Big Show" is the circus, which puts us in front of John Q. Public 20 odd times a year on TV, while confusing the hell out of them by having 3 or 4 different winners on every telecast. I love answering the Question to my kids 'who won dad?' "Worsham, Zippy, Line, & Krawiec"

That being said, on the divisional level, it's a whole different ball game and is what Drag Racing is really all about.

d'kid

 

[BigDaddyB]

NFL, MLB, NBA, NHRA, UDRA, NCAA, Ect,

It's their game, you ask to play by their rules, (subject to their interpretation) on their terms...

'THEY' don't need 'YOU', in fact, they don't even know you 'exist' and could giving a fly 'rats arse', even if you are a 'member'. Membership and $3 will get you a Full Throttle at the local 7/11, your card, the discount coupon, and $$$ will get you a general admission @ the track.

Membership does not give you voting rights, and honestly, if the 'unwashed masses' voted on every rules change, who is the 'starter', the 'event director', the 'tech guys', it would take a month to run an 'Event'. 'Membership' is a 48 issue subscription to National Dragster and a hat pin, along with a bunch of useless coupons for car rentals and hotels.

"Big Show" is the circus, which puts us in front of John Q. Public 20 odd times a year on TV, while confusing the hell out of them by having 3 or 4 different winners on every telecast. I love answering the Question to my kids 'who won dad?' "Worsham, Zippy, Line, & Krawiec"

That being said, on the divisional level, it's a whole different ball game and is what Drag Racing is really all about.

d'kid

Mr. Stalcup do you believe that Mr. Edwards should have been allowed to rerun his race. All the other words you said are for another conversation, except, now if was a divisional race should they have a tree malfunction do think the racers should be allowed a rerun. Is this allowed by the rules of the NHRA?

 

[d'kid]

Mr. Stalcup do you believe that Mr. Edwards should have been allowed to rerun his race. All the other words you said are for another conversation, except, now if was a divisional race should they have a tree malfunction do think the racers should be allowed a rerun. Is this allowed by the rules of the NHRA?

Bruce,
Real Simple... If Rick thought it needed a re-run, Mike and Ron would have been invited to Re-run.

He did not, so they did not. That's all the say so I, you or anyone else has in the matter.

If it was at a divisional race, which PRO cars DO NOT RUN, then it would be up to the starter and the divisional director.

But Bruce, you are taking this chit way too serious... for not having a dawg in the hunt... it happened, the racers involved are over it, the people on site at the time made the call, it's a done deal...

and, if you don't like their party, carry your mess down the road... there are other places to play with your hot rod.

d'kid

 

[none]

Bruce,
Real Simple... If Rick thought it needed a re-run, Mike and Ron would have been invited to Re-run.

He did not, so they did not. That's all the say so I, you or anyone else has in the matter.

If it was at a divisional race, which PRO cars DO NOT RUN, then it would be up to the starter and the divisional director.

But Bruce, you are taking this chit way too serious... for not having a dawg in the hunt... it happened, the racers involved are over it, the people on site at the time made the call, it's a done deal...

and, if you don't like their party, carry your mess down the road... there are other places to play with your hot rod.

d'kid

Karl.......... Thank you so much for saying what most people are thinking on this thread.
Talk about beating a dead horse

 

[mike]

Well said K-man!

 

[.]

NHRA finally admits the obvious: NHRA: KRISHER/EDWARDS WAS APPARENT HUMAN ERROR

 

[Bullard Anderson]

This is probably better news than learning there's some gremlin in the tree's procedure.

The only thing I have to say against Mr. Light is this: The NHRA is there to put on a fair and unbiased race, or say facilitate one. Giving the fan the excuse of (paraphrasing) it takes 45 minutes to turnaround, and TV schedules to adhere to is really junk. I'd think his job is making sure the National Event is perfect on the track and let the higher ups get pissed when the event is of course for media or TV.

If it's NHRA's mistake then figure something else out for Pro Stock. Buy a 30 minute window on ESPN2 at 3am in the morning and broadcast it. I think everybody in the America has a DVR but me . Looking at some salaries these guys pull in I think it's possible.

I guess I'm getting pretty pissed about Senior VP of Racing Operation worried about TV time. Mr. Light should be worried about fairness to all competitors not TV.

Yeah, I know, "Steve it's over, get over it!

 

[SundayNiagara]

RIP Buster!

 

[Rat]

This is probably better news than learning there's some gremlin in the tree's procedure.

The only thing I have to say against Mr. Light is this: The NHRA is there to put on a fair and unbiased race, or say facilitate one. Giving the fan the excuse of (paraphrasing) it takes 45 minutes to turnaround, and TV schedules to adhere to is really junk. I'd think his job is making sure the National Event is perfect on the track and let the higher ups get pissed when the event is of course for media or TV.

If it's NHRA's mistake then figure something else out for Pro Stock. Buy a 30 minute window on ESPN2 at 3am in the morning and broadcast it. I think everybody in the America has a DVR but me . Looking at some salaries these guys pull in I think it's possible.

I guess I'm getting pretty pissed about Senior VP of Racing Operation worried about TV time. Mr. Light should be worried about fairness to all competitors not TV.

Yeah, I know, "Steve it's over, get over it!

i can't even add to this. It's perfect.

 

[nwspeedshots]

"Initially your mad"... C’mon folks. You’re journalists. Get the spelling correct.

 

[JB3]

RIP Buster!

Seriously ?? Do you know for sure that Buster never had an issue. Could this have happened to him if he was the Starter now? Of course !!

You just want to impress people here with your ignorance. Stupid post of the year IMO !!

 

[clwill]

"Initially your mad"... C’mon folks. You’re journalists. Get the spelling correct.

Or: "...re-doing the race between Krisher and Edwards would have been challenge." Perhaps "a challenge" or "challenging"?

 

[d'kid]

Okay, If they did do a Re-do.... 45 minutes for Mike and Ron to get back up and Run, then after their run, another 45 minute to an hour Before one of them could make their Round 2 pass. So then, the whole Pro Stock show is about two hours behind.

But, when all is said and done, Rick screwed up (a second and a half?) the run stood, round two happened on time.

In the long run, if I only make one mistake a day, I'm happy.

d'kid

 

[Muddy]

Seriously ?? Do you know for sure that Buster never had an issue. Could this have happened to him if he was the Starter now? Of course !!

You just want to impress people here with your ignorance. Stupid post of the year IMO !!

I don't know either of you and I don't have a dog in this fight but I will say your response to him was very personal and showed a huge lack of class. Not saying his was good or correct or should have been said. I would think that personal attacks are unwarrented and unneeded on this type of forum.

 

[twostep]

The excuse of interfering with ESPN2's TV schedule is absolutely lame and borderline ridiculous. It's not live coverage. Oildowns interfere with the coverage all the time but they have ways of working around that...we're talking what, maybe 90 seconds-two minutes total?

They could have eliminated one pairing somewhere in the coverage, for example, one of the less-important round 2 PSM races, in order to fit in a rerun which obviously would be of interest to everyone at home. Round 1 and 2 pairings are preempted all the time for various reasons.

As for the two competitors, I feel they should have been at least given the option. 45 minutes to turn your cars around for the rerun. Another 45 minutes for the winner to turn his car around for his round 3 contest. Then let them decide. Tough but not beyond the capability of either of these top shelf teams. If yes, do the rerun right after round 3 TF.

As for Stewart, while personally he's not my favorite player, 'upon further review' I say give him a pass here. Yes, the mistake goofed a race but the man's not a robot. Anyone on this board could have easily made the same mistake. It's not like he has a habit of forgetting to flip the start switch.

 

[d'kid]

Carl, It would have been another 45 minutes to an Hour to turn around after the rerun for their Round 2 match up, which, in the long run, would have delayed rd 3 and the finals also.

 

[twostep]

Carl, It would have been another 45 minutes to an Hour to turn around after the rerun for their Round 2 match up, which, in the long run, would have delayed rd 3 and the finals also.

If they reran right after round 3 TF, they could have run round 3 FC, ProMod and PSM before round 3 PS, which would have given the rerun victor enough time...I know, they normally run PS right after FC and before PSM, but switching PSM and PS for one round doesn't seem like a big deal...PSM's don't need a lot of time to prep for the next round, anyway....

NHRA sided with you, Karl, so apparently I'm in the minority. Mike Edwards might agree with my thinking, however.