Re: Rain

[MHayes]

DRC reports they are running the sportsman classes, are they still planning to run the pros?

It is live on ESPN3 right now......funny cars are up!

 

[None]

They can not rerun the races already run without changing the rules once again.

 

[MHayes]

Again, it does not matter what was said. Even if it was just an antenna from a walkie-talkie, Light was not justified poking BV with it. Period.

Ted, I think you really need to go back and look at the video before continuing your rant

36:30 - Vandergriff approaches Light and gets in his face after pulling his arm around
36:45 - Light is pointing the antenna at Vandergriff and Bob walks into it. You can immediately see Graham pull the walkie talkie away when that happens.

 

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Ted, I think you really need to go back and look at the video before continuing your rant

36:30 - Vandergriff approaches Light and gets in his face after pulling his arm around
36:45 - Light is pointing the antenna at Vandergriff and Bob walks into it. You can immediately see Graham pull the walkie talkie away when that happens.

Where do they show the part where the drivers were told at gun point to get into their cars and run?

 

[MHayes]

Where do they show the part where the drivers were told at gun point to get into their cars and run?

LOL, for some reason I couldn't find that part Greg

 

[yoda]

Seems the real culprits of Sunday's failure would be the crew chiefs and owners that sent the cars down in the first place. If you pulled out of the lineup, instead of taking a shot at a marginal at best track, you might have an argument.

Those that lit the wick and brought their bullet to the line deferred to the established rule and took their chances.

 

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A new article on the fiasco: http://www.competitionplus.com/drag...the-nhra-raced-on-sunday-and-why-bv-was-angry

 

[yoda]

A new article on the fiasco: http://www.competitionplus.com/drag...the-nhra-raced-on-sunday-and-why-bv-was-angry

Doesn't help Vande's argument, as he is both owner and driver. If he felt it was unsafe, who would he have answered to if he just waved off the run, or staged and shut it off?

 

[TR]

Doesn't help Vande's argument, as he is both owner and driver. If he felt it was unsafe, who would he have answered to if he just waved off the run, or staged and shut it off?

His sponsor ? But really he should not have run or tried to run.
Rick

 

[None]

Seems the real culprits of Sunday's failure would be the crew chiefs and owners that sent the cars down in the first place. If you pulled out of the lineup, instead of taking a shot at a marginal at best track, you might have an argument.

Those that lit the wick and brought their bullet to the line deferred to the established rule and took their chances.

By the way the rules are you either run or lose. Money trumps all. Quit early Friday night, tried to run late Sunday night, both to save money. Light said Vandergriff went over the line, Light has been over the line for years. Light said what a great job the Safety Safari did, the bottom line is they failed again. Where was the dead beat Compton at? Support the violent overthrow of the NHRA and return control to the racers.

 

[PJ]

I don't think the Safety Safari failed. 10 hours of rain cannot be fixed in such a short time. After that much rain, the race should have been moved to Monday. The safari would have had plenty of time to do what they do best.

 

[vegasnitro]

I don't think the Safety Safari failed. 10 hours of rain cannot be fixed in such a short time. After that much rain, the race should have been moved to Monday. The safari would have had plenty of time to do what they do best.

Good post PJ. The track was good today ... .70s all day in Top Fuel ... .0s all day in Funny Car.

 

[Jeff]

It is BV's responsibility as to whether the sun is directly behind his view of the tree .... most who race know exactly when this will happen depending on the season and length of car. BV failed himself on that. The sun was not "straight down the track" that was an excuse manufactured by the guy who stared into the sun, then made an idiotic looking run. Look at the video, posted above and elsewhere .... you'll have to study the shadows a bit because they are not that strong, but BV made himself look pretty stupid.

Now the surface being safe had nothing to do with Bob looking at the sun, but he decided it did to save face.

Looking back I'm sure Bob regrets his actions as much as GL regrets that the track was not a competitive surface for staging a competition of acceleration.

I really wish some of you folks (and it is just a few, but damn they are consistent) would take a position of public responsibility and walk a mile, or better yet a career, in some of these guy's shoes. You'd be much more constructive when it came time to communicate with someone who didn't do what your 20:20 hindsight made so apparent.

Flame away.

 

[my friends call me Zappy]

Did anybody catch Graham Light poking Vandergriff with the antenna of is walkie-talkie while BV was talking (yelling) at Graham Light after his run? Light obviously didn't like BV yelling at him. Light wanted BV to leave and purposely poked BV.
I'm no fan of BV but, if a racer could get punished for making contact with an official, no official should be able to get away with it.

Yes I did catch poke. I thought hmmm if that was Force he would be fined.

 

[my friends call me Zappy]

They really should re-run the three pairs that got screwed by the track conditions!

At first I felt the same. But after second thought, it wouldn't be fair to take away a win from the pairs that raced.

 

[yoda]

By the way the rules are you either run or lose. Money trumps all. Quit early Friday night, tried to run late Sunday night, both to save money. Light said Vandergriff went over the line, Light has been over the line for years. Light said what a great job the Safety Safari did, the bottom line is they failed again. Where was the dead beat Compton at? Support the violent overthrow of the NHRA and return control to the racers.

Lets see- Shoe says that this weekend cost him about a half a mil in losses (I would think more like $300k, but...). Vande goes to C&J and says "Pulled it up, got you on TV (like that matters to them), felt it was unsafe to take the pass and took a shot at him going red." What he would have saved in that action would have been his dignity (he will not win the good judgement award for any of his actions), and had he wadded up his car, you can bet if money is so tight that he left Dixon on the sidelines, then he damn sure isn't going to run out and replace that car this week. Dixon would be on the sidelines for Kansas and possibly E-Town (where he's pretty much a shoe-in) and BV would just have a bad decision to show for all this. Take first round loser money (oh wait-he did anyway) and not have any of the drama.

 

[StockersRock]

So where was the almighty PRO during all this?

I'm just surprised they didn't send the LODRS cars down first to dry the track.

 

[MHayes]

Yes I did catch poke. I thought hmmm if that was Force he would be fined.

I guess you guys see what you want to see.....you should probably take a look at the video again

 

[mick]

nobody's at fault here....graham light did not drive the car in blinding sun and bob v. was not faced with whether to
run a scheduled race or not. bod v. should not be fined, he apologized and g. light should remember this scenario the next
time it unfolds.....some races go off without a hitch, some do not as per atlanta. put it behind you, learn from it and move on.

 

[Nunz]

Good post Mike. Here's a question I had while watching Sunday night: why were there drivers squinting into the sun, when simply swapping in a tinted face shield would help? I mean, isn't that what they're for?