No shoulder harnesses for Hillary?

[You!]

Good point David. If the chin strap hit the latch as they're saying it did, and I have no reason to believe differently, then it would have released the shoulders AND the lap belts. They're all tied together.

 

[Jenn]

Good thread.

Would Hillary's lap still be restrained? She appeared to come up quite a ways..the slo mo was scary..and I'm certainly glad it was an uneventful run..by that I mean straight and no trouble.

Cam locks you can release just the two shoulder straps by not turning it completely. I've used that technique several times when the guys would forget about the arm restraints.

The cam lock seems to work like a gear, releasing each strap as it turns.

 

[Suzie Q]

This can be analyzed to death, but the fact reamins that it was a FLUKE thing. There really is nothing else to say!

They are in the process of fixing the problem so that it never happens again!

 

[PJ]

This can be analyzed to death, but the fact reamins that it was a FLUKE thing. There really is nothing else to say!

They are in the process of fixing the problem so that it never happens again!

WHAT!!!!! You mean without our help, well the nerve

 

[Bobby Bennett]

Folks, it was a fluke experience -- one of those things that rarely happens. In th current configuration. I'm be willing to be it doesn't happen again.

 

[club]

 

[Bobby Bennett]

Man, he's wailing on that horse.

 

[willy]

And the horse is winning..

 

[none]

The man in this illistration should be named "NITROMATER FORUMS"

 

[Von Halen]

I don't really care how it happened, I just don't ever want to see it happen again.

Like somebody else said, that slo-mo sequence was wicked. Scared the crap out of me. I thought she was going to launch right out of the car.

Just think if she would have had the ole plexiglass cover over the cockpit like Garlits tried.

 

[yoda]

Video link anyone? (There's no Deuce over here....)

 

[MM]

Video link anyone? (There's no Deuce over here....)

not even an outhouse????

sorry martin.....couldn't resist

 

[Jenn]

This can be analyzed to death, but the fact reamins that it was a FLUKE thing. There really is nothing else to say!

They are in the process of fixing the problem so that it never happens again!

Suzie, sorry for the over analyzation but a lot of non racers don't understand that the belts are different. Both of them have their pros and cons, but their main job is to protect the driver.

This thread coupled with PMs from other racers have helped me decide to buy a head and neck restraint device and which brand to buy.

It's always good that a thread like that makes people analyze their own safety devices in my opinion.

 

[You!]

This can be analyzed to death, but the fact reamins that it was a FLUKE thing. There really is nothing else to say!

They are in the process of fixing the problem so that it never happens again!

Absolutely no one in this part of the discussion is attempting to place blame or hang anyone. We're (racers) trying to understand what exactly happened so we can prevent it from occurring to one of us!

It does need to be analyzed or a death could occur. I mean, if this could happen to one of the top teams out there, the odds are fairly good it could happen to anyone. And sometimes the fix is never reported to the masses.

And this discussion does not warrant the "beating a dead horse" deal either. If you've got nothing to contribute in this adult conversation, then stay out of it.

 

[yoda]

not even an outhouse????

sorry martin.....couldn't resist

Mike... not EVEN considering where the outhouses are when I have the Red Light District within walking distance of the hotel....

 

[Sean D, shondoo]

It does need to be analyzed or a death could occur. I mean, if this could happen to one of the top teams out there, the odds are fairly good it could happen to anyone. And sometimes the fix is never reported to the masses.

Excellent point, Bill.

Sean D

 

[Suzie Q]

It does need to be analyzed or a death could occur. I mean, if this could happen to one of the top teams out there, the odds are fairly good it could happen to anyone. And sometimes the fix is never reported to the masses.

There is a diffrence between "keyboard analysis" and actually participating. I know you are racers and this kind of thing can happen to anyone, that is painfully obvious. It does no good to work without the facts and the actual belt in your hand to examine. To try to dissect this without all the info is nothing more than speculation. That gets pretty old!

I feel pretty certain that they (the team) would let everybody know what the findings are. It is ALL about safety! That is NOT something that they would keep locked away in the closet!

 

[You!]

O.K. Suzie, this will be my last comment on this topic, but I'm not sure why you're getting so defensive here. Again, no one here is saying that anyone within the team did anything wrong. It truly was a fluke occurance and that's what I think concerns alot of us.

Initially there was speculation from some fans here that the team or driver was at fault. In their defense, they don't understand, nor will they until they've either been strapped in or have strapped someone they love in. Those folks are out of this discussion now.

What would be great would be if Dave Reif could do a 45 second piece with Jim or Jon (or my buddy James!)this weekend and show us both what actually happened and how they fixed it. Trust me, we would listen, learn, follow and thank them!

 

[Suzie Q]

O.K. Suzie, this will be my last comment on this topic, but I'm not sure why you're getting so defensive here. Again, no one here is saying that anyone within the team did anything wrong. It truly was a fluke occurance and that's what I think concerns alot of us.

Initially there was speculation from some fans here that the team or driver was at fault. In their defense, they don't understand, nor will they until they've either been strapped in or have strapped someone they love in. Those folks are out of this discussion now.

What would be great would be if Dave Reif could do a 45 second piece with Jim or Jon (or my buddy James!)this weekend and show us both what actually happened and how they fixed it. Trust me, we would listen, learn, follow and thank them!

Bill, I am not getting defensive on this at all. As you well know, the speculators can get waaaay out of hand here. It is best to find out what happened before jumping to conclusions. That is why I keep saying that they will let everybody know when they have the answers. I bet Dave Reif is all over it! I look forward to the show this weekend.

OK, lets move on from here!