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Geez.. I must be getting old. Maybe you can refresh my memory on the "since then" (TF/FC only) cause I don't remember any. While you are at it you can show me all the video's of TF or FC drivers running off the track since 1000' rule was implemented. I can certainly find you lots from before then if somebody had a chute failure or other problem. Probably has nothing to do with the extra football field of length we have to slow down in though....

With all due respect, if you're trying to consider the overall safety of the sport itself, you can't limit it to Fuel. And it's my opinion that when you take a closer look at those fatal crashes, the length of the shutdown had little to nothing to do with most, if not all of them. Would some of them have turned out better with more shutdown? Possibly. But it wasn't the root cause; there were other extenuating circumstances that ended up playing the key role. And I have seen some instances where those extenuating circumstances were such that the outcome would've likely been the same no matter the shut down distance.

Sean D
 
With all due respect, if you're trying to consider the overall safety of the sport itself, you can't limit it to Fuel.

I will keep my answer short for a change. Yes I can limit it to Fuel Cars because we are the only ones running a 1000' and that's what this whole discussion is about. There is no doubt that with the implementation of 1000' racing, the Leahy automatic shutoff device and many of the other rules since 2008 the sport is a lot safer for us.

But yes I agree with you that the outcome of some of the accidents from the past would have probably been the same regardless of track length or shutdown area.
 
When a sanctioning body is basically run by a passionless Legal department and the Suits only know drag racing as an eighth-mile pass in a Pontiac GXP on Media Day, you get 1,000 foot racing and a complete inability to reasonably slow down the racecars.

The NHRA needs the oversight of the Membership in order to survive, the Suits have no idea what they are doing.

A top to bottom housecleaning is needed.
 
When a sanctioning body is basically run by a passionless Legal department and the Suits only know drag racing as an eighth-mile pass in a Pontiac GXP on Media Day, you get 1,000 foot racing and a complete inability to reasonably slow down the racecars.

The NHRA needs the oversight of the Membership in order to survive, the Suits have no idea what they are doing.

A top to bottom housecleaning is needed.

Who would you select from THIS membership role to represent the committed fan base on the BoD at NHRA, Darr?
 
With all due respect, if you're trying to consider the overall safety of the sport itself, you can't limit it to Fuel. And it's my opinion that when you take a closer look at those fatal crashes, the length of the shutdown had little to nothing to do with most, if not all of them. Would some of them have turned out better with more shutdown? Possibly. But it wasn't the root cause; there were other extenuating circumstances that ended up playing the key role. And I have seen some instances where those extenuating circumstances were such that the outcome would've likely been the same no matter the shut down distance.

Sean D

see Neal Parker's crash 2 years after Kalitta.
 
see Neal Parker's crash 2 years after Kalitta.

That's exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about, Rob. I don't know what the speed was on that pass, but I'm sure it was MUCH slower than not only what the fuel cars were running at the time of the switch, but also much slower than what many are proposing we slow the cars to in an effort to go back to 1320' racing. And if memory serves me correctly, Fuller stopped his car on a 300mph pass the same weekend Scott was lost without a chute.

I hear what Jeff is saying because I realize that the fuel cars are the only ones that are currently running 1,000'. The point I'm trying to drive home is that when you have extenuating circumstances, which is the case in so many of the fatalities we could talk about, no amount of shutdown would have sufficed.

Sean D
 

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