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NHRA being Investigated by the IRS
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d'kid
Nitro Member
You know Timmah, I think that is why this whole thing has come into question.
There is a difference between being Circus Promoters (the Big Show),
and
To promote safe practices and get 'kids' off the street.
And to think, my entire life, I thought it was the second part. I did have an AHRA membership (Lions) when I was young.
I had a NHRA membership this century, I did not renew when VMP was 'asked' to leave... and I can not see rejoining at this point in my life.
d'kid
There is a difference between being Circus Promoters (the Big Show),
and
To promote safe practices and get 'kids' off the street.
And to think, my entire life, I thought it was the second part. I did have an AHRA membership (Lions) when I was young.
I had a NHRA membership this century, I did not renew when VMP was 'asked' to leave... and I can not see rejoining at this point in my life.
d'kid
Tim5636sc
Nitro Member
Exactly.
Let's face it, the CIRCUS is ENTERTAINMENT. Today's NHRA has become ENTERTAINMENT FIRST....There is nothing wrong with ENTERTAINMENT, but there is something wrong with the National Hot Rod Association being the 'COMPANY' to run the ENTERTAINMENT.
Just my opinion, but I believe the National Hot Rod Association should be about PROMOTING the SAFETY aspects of taking your car OFF the STREET...and onto a safe track. This was the original MISSION of the NHRA.
I just wonder what it would take (ON NHRA'S PART) to separate the SHOW...from the MISSION. Maybe call it the National Drag Racing League (A DIVISION OF THE NHRA) and then have the NHRA...
Hey Karl was not Lions on Sunday true Sportsman drag racing at its best
d'kid
Nitro Member
Bobby Bennett
Nitro Member
Jon wouldn't do that.
He'd know that CompetitionPlus.com would be all over him 24/7.
Right, Mr. Senior Editor?
He'd know that CompetitionPlus.com would be all over him 24/7.
Right, Mr. Senior Editor?
sharkman
Nitro Member
I called My Mother (a retired IRS investigator) about this, She said Quote: We have the manpower and We would/will investigate any and all complaints of tax fraud. I have NO expertise in any of this situation But I will say that IF any of this holds water so-to-speak, according to My Mom, "it will be costly to the NHRA" they will owe taxes and penelties and interest back to where the violations IF ANY occured. This isn't about looking over some old tax returns, and it won't happen in a week or two either, stay tuned folks.
Does anybody know whether the leadership at NHRA ever address the membership about what's going on with the organisation. Seems like now would be prime news opportunity to explain the situation an make us all warm and fuzzy about this complaint. One statement. Is this a aint none your business moment. Just pony up your bucks an we'll squander it best way we can, cannot for the life of me believe that 80,000 people are alright with that kind of behavior.
vegasnitro
Nitro Member
Why should the NHRA comment? They have not been contacted about this in any official capacity, either by the anonymous complainant or the IRS.
mw6789
Nitro Member
Yeah right---and while you're at it, lets work on that world peace thing.
Its hard enough to get TWO people to agree on anything, let alone a bunch. As my father in law says "Good luck with that deal, Son".
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mw6789
Nitro Member
I would be shocked if anything like this ever so much as even got a mention in the official house organ.
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I don't think that law firm would have made a press release without knowing that NHRA is operating fraudulently for title 501,c status. This lawyer did run that dept in the IRS for 10 years and it is the profession he specializes in.The position of defending his clients against the IRS, so I don't think a partner in that firm is just going to send a complaint letter because some sportsman racer is pissed at NHRA and paid him a measly 10,000 grand. That lawyer aint going to do squat for less then a 100,000 grand period! I dont know squat about any tax laws but this is more serious then most people can imagine. IRS has your filings too, but they dont do audits on everyone, only when a red flag is raised, I'm sure NHRA has been doing their filings without CAUSING any suspicsions but now there is a complaint. I think this lawyer knows he's got something......
Oh boy!
Bruce Edwards, don’t EVER utter those words again! I sincerely appreciate your mistaken belief that I could run NHRA, but I’m not only not qualified, I’m too old to want to put up with all of it.
Let me put it another way: About a year ago I mentioned to a prominent racer that the rumor going around was that he was going to take over NHRA in September of that year. After he stopped laughing he gave me the perfect response: “I’m ____ years old, and the last thing I want to be doing is dealing with these a------s every day of the week.” Worth noting: When he used the A-word he nodded towards both the tower where the NHRA executives were, and the staging lanes where the pros were lining up.
You’d have to be completely and totally dedicated to the job to do it correctly, and after 46 years of working in drag racing I’m not as dedicated as I once was. I can readily admit that I don’t want to go to every national event any longer, and unless some corporate type understands western style (expensive cowboy shirt, jeans and a hat), I can’t attend a meeting with him ‘cause, well, I gave my last suit to charity after I moved to New Mexico, and I’m not buying another one. For any reason!
The other thing is Bobby Bennett just scared me with that 24/7 threat! I probably couldn’t get away with lying to him!
Kenny Miller is spot-on. A tax status change for NHRA would be devastating to the sport on any number of levels.
Chris Williams, the lines of communication are open.
Mike Walker is right. National Dragster is a house organ publication dedicated to putting the best foot forward for the NHRA. There is no way they’re going to touch this until it becomes “official,” and they might not tackle it even then.
Jon Asher
Senior Editor
CompetitionPlus.com
Bruce Edwards, don’t EVER utter those words again! I sincerely appreciate your mistaken belief that I could run NHRA, but I’m not only not qualified, I’m too old to want to put up with all of it.
Let me put it another way: About a year ago I mentioned to a prominent racer that the rumor going around was that he was going to take over NHRA in September of that year. After he stopped laughing he gave me the perfect response: “I’m ____ years old, and the last thing I want to be doing is dealing with these a------s every day of the week.” Worth noting: When he used the A-word he nodded towards both the tower where the NHRA executives were, and the staging lanes where the pros were lining up.
You’d have to be completely and totally dedicated to the job to do it correctly, and after 46 years of working in drag racing I’m not as dedicated as I once was. I can readily admit that I don’t want to go to every national event any longer, and unless some corporate type understands western style (expensive cowboy shirt, jeans and a hat), I can’t attend a meeting with him ‘cause, well, I gave my last suit to charity after I moved to New Mexico, and I’m not buying another one. For any reason!
The other thing is Bobby Bennett just scared me with that 24/7 threat! I probably couldn’t get away with lying to him!
Kenny Miller is spot-on. A tax status change for NHRA would be devastating to the sport on any number of levels.
Chris Williams, the lines of communication are open.
Mike Walker is right. National Dragster is a house organ publication dedicated to putting the best foot forward for the NHRA. There is no way they’re going to touch this until it becomes “official,” and they might not tackle it even then.
Jon Asher
Senior Editor
CompetitionPlus.com
jon appreciate your raw honesty. But when you get old you develop automatic bs filters and the ability to cut to the chase is ever profound ability. Need somebody other than suit. Cowboy boots and shirt, that'ss cool,
a little Toby Keith in the background, we'll be just fine
a little Toby Keith in the background, we'll be just fine
Jeremy Gutierrez, I beg to differ with you on any number of fronts.
1. You are oh-so-wrong about the press release. Of COURSE they’d put out a press release without knowing if NHRA was operating fraudulently or not. The concept of a PRESS RELEASE is to generate publicity for something, and in this instance it’s the darn law firm, not this letter to the IRS.
2. Marcus S. Owens, whose signature is at the bottom of the complaint letter, is NOT a partner in the firm. He’s merely a practicing member of that firm.
3. You have no clue as to how much money the client paid the firm to produce this letter, but your figure of $100,000 appears far too high. It doesn’t cost that much to retain the services of a quality law firm – unless you’re facing an OJ Simpson-type situation.
4. You are absolutely right. “this is more serious than most people can imagine.”
Jon Asher
1. You are oh-so-wrong about the press release. Of COURSE they’d put out a press release without knowing if NHRA was operating fraudulently or not. The concept of a PRESS RELEASE is to generate publicity for something, and in this instance it’s the darn law firm, not this letter to the IRS.
2. Marcus S. Owens, whose signature is at the bottom of the complaint letter, is NOT a partner in the firm. He’s merely a practicing member of that firm.
3. You have no clue as to how much money the client paid the firm to produce this letter, but your figure of $100,000 appears far too high. It doesn’t cost that much to retain the services of a quality law firm – unless you’re facing an OJ Simpson-type situation.
4. You are absolutely right. “this is more serious than most people can imagine.”
Jon Asher
