New Pro Stock Tire Rule (1 Viewer)

[Bobby Bennett]

Drag Racing Internet Magazine - Competition Plus.com - TIRE MANUFACTURER QUESTIONS NEW NHRA RULE

 

[d'kid]

OKAY....

That sucks,and the way M/T found out sucks worst...

d'kid

 

[willy]

Now why doesn't this news surprise me.

 

[Reese]

They are just trying to prove Larry Morgan is correct.
Man someone's over there have to be getting their cut.

 

[J.C.]

Arrogance is accepted/ignored in good times, everyone is fat, dumb and happy.

In bad times, arrogance results in unrest amongst the masses.

Bad times are when great companies prosper and so-so companies go by the wayside. Where will NHRA end up in the next 12-24 months?

 

[texasprostocklover]

Wow, it is never good to not have competition. Isn't that what America is all about? Bad idea to always put your eggs in one basket. Sorry M/T and Hoosier and any other tire manufacturer that might endeavor to build a better mousetrap!

 

[PJ]

I will never understand the "logic" behind limiting the involvement of companies willing to spend money on our sport.

Look at the amount of teams that keep being affected by the non competition clauses. Between armed forces, energy drinks and now tires. Several teams sit on the sidelines and I only see 1 sponsor from the above actually on a car as the major sponsor.

 

[jackass]

man this reminds me so much of the Hoosier/Goodyear deal in NASCAR in the late 80's....

maybe Goodyear is scared.... word has it that Firestone tested a Cup style tire in Homestead Fla recently... and suposedly Goodyears contract ends soon with NASCAR and the agreed price to reup ..Goodyear might not be able to cover... so why not lock in the cheapest motorsports they can....


now the other question is... has MT or Hoosier or who ever contacted the IHRA to make sure they stay open to the new PS tires.. for the Mountian motor PS guys.... that would probalby help the IHRA....


Billy

 

[Buzzz Miller]

Is ANYONE surprised by this - AT ALL??

 

[club]

Now why doesn't this news surprise me.

Took the words right our of my keyboard.

 

[.]

What a crock of ****! Doesn't surprise me to see NHRA screw over a supporting manufacturer to fatten their wallets. What a bunch of a-holes!

 

[Muddy]

New Pro Stock Tire Rule

You can't fix stupid!

 

[Crazy]

Contracts or combinations that tend, or are designed, to eliminate or stifle competition, create a MONOPOLY, artificially maintain prices, or otherwise hamper or obstruct the course of trade as it would be carried on if it were left to the control of natural economic forces.

As used in the SHERMAN ANTI-TRUST ACT (15 U.S.C.A. § 1 et seq.), unreasonable restraints of trade are illegal per se and interfere with free competition in business and commercial transactions. Such restraint tends to restrict production, affect prices, or otherwise control the market to the detriment of purchasers or consumers of goods and services. A restraint of trade that is ordinarily reasonable can be rendered unreasonable if it is accompanied by a SPECIFIC INTENT to achieve the equivalent of a forbidden restraint.


Having read this, I ask: Is there a basis for MT and the other companies/Armed Forces, wanting to sponsor teams, supply tires, fuel,etc, or for that matter, the team owners, who have lost sponsors, to take this path, to court? Also, has anyone ever challenged, NHRA's status as a non-profit?

 

[clwill]

Contracts or combinations that tend, or are designed, to eliminate or stifle competition, create a MONOPOLY, artificially maintain prices, or otherwise hamper or obstruct the course of trade as it would be carried on if it were left to the control of natural economic forces.

As used in the SHERMAN ANTI-TRUST ACT (15 U.S.C.A. § 1 et seq.), unreasonable restraints of trade are illegal per se and interfere with free competition in business and commercial transactions. Such restraint tends to restrict production, affect prices, or otherwise control the market to the detriment of purchasers or consumers of goods and services. A restraint of trade that is ordinarily reasonable can be rendered unreasonable if it is accompanied by a SPECIFIC INTENT to achieve the equivalent of a forbidden restraint.


Having read this, I ask: Is there a basis for MT and the other companies/Armed Forces, wanting to sponsor teams, supply tires, fuel,etc, or for that matter, the team owners, who have lost sponsors, to take this path, to court? Also, has anyone ever challenged, NHRA's status as a non-profit?

This doesn't apply in the case of sports -- look at MLB, NBA, etc. All of which intentionally create a monopoly. A monopoly which is specifically and explicitly sanctioned by congress.

And NHRA isn't preventing anyone from competing in drag racing, look at the IHRA, ADRL, etc. They are simply determining the conditions in which people can participate in their events. The rulebook has specific clauses that require approval by NHRA of all advertising and promotions, and which specify what products can be used. They don't need to specify a reason for any of their decisions in this area.

WRT non-profit status, here again, sports sanctioning bodies have special rules. NHRA is not a 501c3 (like a charity), they are a 501c6 which pertains to sports leagues and a number of type of similar organizations. All that is required to be a non-profit in this area is a limit on the distribution of profits to the shareholders and a few other such restrictions. The bar is pretty low to maintain that status. People have tried to challenge MLB and NFL on this, and have lost.

 

[Toby]

Bottom line....its NHRA's playground and no one is forcing you to play there. Autometer got the same thing recently. RacePak is the only allowed data acq system in PS.

Toby Graham
DragTraction.Com

This doesn't apply in the case of sports -- look at MLB, NBA, etc. All of which intentionally create a monopoly. A monopoly which is specifically and explicitly sanctioned by congress.

And NHRA isn't preventing anyone from competing in drag racing, look at the IHRA, ADRL, etc. They are simply determining the conditions in which people can participate in their events. The rulebook has specific clauses that require approval by NHRA of all advertising and promotions, and which specify what products can be used. They don't need to specify a reason for any of their decisions in this area.

WRT non-profit status, here again, sports sanctioning bodies have special rules. NHRA is not a 501c3 (like a charity), they are a 501c6 which pertains to sports leagues and a number of type of similar organizations. All that is required to be a non-profit in this area is a limit on the distribution of profits to the shareholders and a few other such restrictions. The bar is pretty low to maintain that status. People have tried to challenge MLB and NFL on this, and have lost.

 

[Mooseman]

This is whats going to make costs go out of control . its simple economics , as soon as you make it that you have to buy from one manufactorer . That manufactorer will think " They have to buy from me or they can't race so lets put prices up because they wil have to pay it because they can't get it from anyone else" . Its the Nitro debacle all over again except with tires .

 

[megadeth]

Bottom line....its NHRA's playground and no one is forcing you to play there. Autometer got the same thing recently. RacePak is the only allowed data acq system in PS.

Toby Graham
DragTraction.Com

With less and less kids playing in it!

 

[my friends call me Zappy]

way to gonhra, just shoot yourself in the other foot. will they NEVER learn??
Never mind.....don't answer that.

 

[Toby]

With less and less kids playing in it!

They keep digging up cat turds in the sand box.

 

[FuelFC]

way to gonhra, just shoot yourself in the other foot. will they NEVER learn??
Never mind.....don't answer that.

Paul, Fruedian slip or abreviated cryptic messaging? Sorry just had to answer.

I'm no doctor but I don't think a shot is 'gonna rea'lly clear this up.