More Street Outlaws Insanity

[Sean D, shondoo]

I watched it, and it will be the last episode I ever watch. I hope these guys don't really believe they're drivers of ANY kind........

Sean D

 

[FABMAN]

For the first time i watched a full 2 hours of the show where 32 cars raced for $56,000. It was in OKC near some homes on a curb street that has been raced on a lot. Didn't see any Police or emergency equipment. There were some nice cars, nice haulers, but the racing was sub par, i would say the most i got out of the show was they have no idea how to use nitrous, burnt up several nice cars from engine explosions. I have to say i street raced for awhile and never saw any serious wrecks but the horsepower was much lower back then 400 to 500 hp in factory built cars, hell most of these cars are1000 to 1500 hp plus in race cars built for drag strip, i really dought if any of them are licensed. Winner was from out of state not a member of the 405. Dont think i will spend time to watch again.

 

[Dennis]

what kind of signal does it send to the NHRA, IHRA, and all other forms of sanctioned, organized class drag racing? Is anybody in Glendora trying to figure it out? Because if the Stars of a "reality" television show that encourages grudge style street racing, can out-draw one of the all-time-greats from the NHRA, than the aforementioned NHRA had better wake the heck up and do some serious introspection from top to bottom.

The problem on the professional side is that now it's just another business venture. There are no more rivalries or personalities. Who are the Snake and Mongoose of today? Who are "the kid" and "the old man" of today? In order to grow you have to reach out to people who may otherwise be uneducated. Does it really help when there is no personality left in the sport? Look at the top end interviews:

Congrats on your win Dave, boy you and Steve have been battling back and forth all year long. How do you prepare, mentally, for a high-stakes race like this? Well first I'd like to thank Sears for sticking with us through thick and thin. Ole Billy Bob had the Sears, Prestone, Quaker State, Mama-Mia's Pizza Dodge Camastang hauling today.

As usual, the NHRA has prepped the lanes so much that anyone with a check for $100,000 can race this weekend, regardless of ability. Despite this does not having lane choice affect you? No you pretty much summed it up. No throttle stops, burnouts don't mean anything anymore, spec rules, spec bodies. This is an exciting sport.

Think about this, strip out the sportsman racers and how many actual "fans" does NHRA have? You have to give people a reason to come. I know many here are passionate about drag racing, but in order to grow you have to reach out to those on the fence.

I can only speak for myself. I stopped spending a dime on NHRA when they went to 1000 ft. Don't get me wrong, I know it's a touchy subject and if you like it, great. I just chose to put my money where my mouth is and that's just me. Sitting back I found I really didn't miss anything about it. I rarely watch a race unless I'm already sitting on the couch and it happens to be on. Before re-signing up here I would check in periodically because the power or the cars and the technology still interests me. As for the product, I just don't miss it. I spend my entertainment dollars elsewhere.

If NHRA wants to grow they will reach out to ex and prospective fans to get the answers. Too often they go to the crew chiefs. We can't have funny cars that resemble cars. We can't return to 1320 ft. So they say.

If someone walks into your office tomorrow and says "Hey we're going to change how you do your job" your first inclination would be to say "no" too.

 

[Sandman]

This is exactly how I feel as well. I recently watched American Nitro on Youtube and almost forgot why I fell in love with drag racing years ago. Yes, it was expensive then as well, it's all relative I guess. But where's the excitement these days? can't do a burnout or a dry hop, or even whack the throttle during warmups because we might damage the finely tuned machines because the cars are too delicate. Where's Jungle Jim when you need him the most? Why in the world would I care if a JFR car or a DSR car wins? They are both great men who earned what they have, but their financial situation makes them less than relevant to me. But could I sorta imagine a scenario where I could build a car like I see on Street Outlaws? Yep. I'm a blue collar guy, they're blue collar guys. It's unlikely, but if I made enough sacrifices, I could do it. Plus the cars actually LOOK like stuff I own. Does any car running in P/S or F/C look ANYTHING like my street car? So If I can't relate to the people (...I'd like to thank...) or the cars (Sure it's a Camaro, don't you see the stickers saying so?) then why do I care? As for their wild nature in unsafe conditions, please see who our heroes and legends are in drag racing. Willy Borsch seem tame to you? I'm so sick of having the business side of racing shoved down my throat I honestly don't know how it can survive as is. As Mike Dunn once said, " Fans don't pay to watch a business run"

 

[dboxell]

These "street" type of cars actually packed SGMP to overflowing a couple weeks ago. They were turning spectators away at the gate by noon Saturday

 

[turbo ken]

These "street" type of cars actually packed SGMP to overflowing a couple weeks ago. They were turning spectators away at the gate by noon Saturday

A line of cars 5 miles long from both ways waiting to get in. Some people drove over 6 hours to get there, but couldn't get in. The NHRA got too cookie cutter (too many rules), the race at SGMP no two cars were the same, and racing was heads up.

 

[Nick Name]

A line of cars 5 miles long from both ways waiting to get in. Some people drove over 6 hours to get there, but couldn't get in. The NHRA got too cookie cutter (too many rules), the race at SGMP no two cars were the same, and racing was heads up.

That's the future, and many have their heads burried in the sand.

 

[DrRocket]

So, knowing the nature of racers, how do you keep something like that from becoming an all out money war?

 

[Sean D, shondoo]

So, knowing the nature of racers, how do you keep something like that from becoming an all out money war?

Don't know that it can be kept from happening at all, but the sanctioning body keeping on top of that through regular rule reviews would be a good start.......

Sean D

 

[Nunz]

Pretty sure all these fast door cars are already very expensive.

 

[dboxell]

Pretty sure all these fast door cars are already very expensive.

Full tube frame and panel cars, its already a money game.
The attraction is they are what ProMod started out to be, all different combinations.

 

[stitcherbob]

The wreck between the Crow and Chucky was televised tonight.....pretty brutal. I was surprised both drivers were standing afterwards, but disappointed the show didn't dwell on the hospital time they both endured. Makes the reality look too tame for the viewers that don't know racing and it's dangers...


and The Chief is very lucky a fence post didn't come through his windshield....

 

[stitcherbob]

 

[Rajunz]

I'm surprised that no one has commented on this bit yet in this thread.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/gove...cle_6a332bc3-cbb5-5b7e-9419-4d2b1af1f602.html

 

[DrRocket]

After having said what they did, I have a hard time believing the council and police would retain any credibility if they considered and approved any future permits.

 

[stitcherbob]

the commenters in that thread seem to want the exposure the show brings to their town (i.e.: OKC has continually passed them by....I guess as in revenue coming into their town) even though it has increased illegal street racing activities there. Wait until somebody gets killed and then it'll be NIMBY !

 

[vegasnitro]

the commenters in that thread seem to want the exposure the show brings to their town (i.e.: OKC has continually passed them by....I guess as in revenue coming into their town) even though it has increased illegal street racing activities there. Wait until somebody gets killed and then it'll be NIMBY !

What revenue could it be generating for OKC? (outside of filming permits for the show) It's not like tourism has increased or OKC is getting a cut of the TShirt sales. No other shows have rushed in to increase filming permit revenue. If anything the message is "we have had a top 10 list for decades for illegal activities because our law enforcement and city leadership is below average".

 

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After having said what they did, I have a hard time believing the council and police would retain any credibility if they considered and approved any future permits.

Before the unanimous vote to reject the application for filming, several councilors said they would seriously consider all future applications, saying the vote was not intended as a ban.

In other words..... lets make a "backroom" deal to line our (council members) pockets, then we will vote on it again.

lol


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[stitcherbob]

What revenue could it be generating for OKC? (outside of filming permits for the show) It's not like tourism has increased or OKC is getting a cut of the TShirt sales. No other shows have rushed in to increase filming permit revenue. If anything the message is "we have had a top 10 list for decades for illegal activities because our law enforcement and city leadership is below average".

I was just mentioning what some of the inhabitants of the area had to say....I don't have any info on who benefits from the filming.....

"Again the City of Tulsa misses an opportunity for national exposure and sits back and wonders why OKC has leaped past us."

"this is not a ban".....you think they are ever going to come back now? you can kiss that hotel tax revenue goodbye"

 

[Sandman]

Am I the only one that finds it ironic that a show about outlaws is likely killed off by something as mundane as them needing a permit from the city council to be outlaws?