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Might we see the 1st female FC champ?
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HEMI6point1
Nitro Member
John has his own sponsors to answer to, and don't you think he's going to try his damn near hardest to win one more for Castrol and Ford before they bow out?
John is not going to dive, trust me....
d'kid
Nitro Member
George...
Sorry dude, you and everyone else on here knows I'm a goof-ball, but I do read everything... You do one thing even my family can't... ya make me THINK... and that hurts...
Like a family, we sometime piss eachother off... saying things before we think...
Heck.... Come Back George!!! The kids miss you....
Karl
aka d'kid
More words of Wisdom from the Grim Reaper....
You just be too young to remember the famous Botched Tony Pedregon dive at Pomona about 15 years ago?
Mind you this is a guy who hasn't been to a race in 10 years!
Post of the Week nominee^^^
Joe, you remind me of Clint Eastwoods character in Gran Torino.
Every post you write says the same thing, "get off my lawn"
Negative, nasty and a total lack of basic respect for someone elses...ANYONE else's view.
I may not agree with your posts, but I do respect your right to post them here, and I do look for something to consider every time.
I'm not a cheer leader..I look at things objectively.
I'm not a reactive personality, I'm more proactive. I've been self employed since 21, and the one constant thing about surviving in this country is that if you are not planning and preparing today for life 5 years down the road, you will soon be out, like yesterday, only to find out tomorrow morning.
Joe, you are a time card punching, lunch box carrier, and you think like a trained and leashed unch box carrier. There is nothing wrong with punching the clock as long as you have an open mind to what's going on outside of those walls. Your mind is as closed as it gets. Your life, your choice I guess...
Some have the ability to think like a self sufficient person, and what it takes to be responsible for yourself, and some do not. IMO, you strike me over and over as a person who does not, and furthermore, you also strike me as a person who might be totally lost if you had to provide for your family without your boss telling you what to do, and how to do it, and steered mentally to think and remain in their box.
You fix today's problems with what fixes the problem today. To properly fix them, you need to fix the problem for 2020....in 2015. Like steering a ocean going freighter. You can turn the wheel right now, but it takes a long time before it finally starts to turn, and that's the thinking to run a smart business.
You belittle those who are looking down the road for a fix because you simply do not have the ability to tune into that channel, and you do not see past the horizon. I'm not nuts Joe, and I'm not doom and gloom. I'm simply unapologetically pragmatic, and I think I can see how it's all developing.
If I didn't love the NHRA, and the fun that it has brought to my life, I wouldn't be concerned and I wouldn't post.
I list what I feel that needs to be corrected, and why. If some like Joe take offense at my lack of Pom pom shaking posts, I suggest not reading them.
Our country has changed. Our kids have different interests. At some point, those who are currently participating in the NHRA and its status quo posture will soon grow older and at some point, leave without that void filled by someone else. Unfortunately, that has been happening in the stands, and you simply can not grasp that fact, or why. And again, you are closed minded to the facts, and call me names for pointing out the absurdly obvious.
Just what is attractive about the NHRA to those young people who aren't interested in motor sports?
It isn't Courtney Force....
..and you still fail to grasp or understand "why" those covers are all over the empty stands...
Every post you write says the same thing, "get off my lawn"
Negative, nasty and a total lack of basic respect for someone elses...ANYONE else's view.
I may not agree with your posts, but I do respect your right to post them here, and I do look for something to consider every time.
I'm not a cheer leader..I look at things objectively.
I'm not a reactive personality, I'm more proactive. I've been self employed since 21, and the one constant thing about surviving in this country is that if you are not planning and preparing today for life 5 years down the road, you will soon be out, like yesterday, only to find out tomorrow morning.
Joe, you are a time card punching, lunch box carrier, and you think like a trained and leashed unch box carrier. There is nothing wrong with punching the clock as long as you have an open mind to what's going on outside of those walls. Your mind is as closed as it gets. Your life, your choice I guess...
Some have the ability to think like a self sufficient person, and what it takes to be responsible for yourself, and some do not. IMO, you strike me over and over as a person who does not, and furthermore, you also strike me as a person who might be totally lost if you had to provide for your family without your boss telling you what to do, and how to do it, and steered mentally to think and remain in their box.
You fix today's problems with what fixes the problem today. To properly fix them, you need to fix the problem for 2020....in 2015. Like steering a ocean going freighter. You can turn the wheel right now, but it takes a long time before it finally starts to turn, and that's the thinking to run a smart business.
You belittle those who are looking down the road for a fix because you simply do not have the ability to tune into that channel, and you do not see past the horizon. I'm not nuts Joe, and I'm not doom and gloom. I'm simply unapologetically pragmatic, and I think I can see how it's all developing.
If I didn't love the NHRA, and the fun that it has brought to my life, I wouldn't be concerned and I wouldn't post.
I list what I feel that needs to be corrected, and why. If some like Joe take offense at my lack of Pom pom shaking posts, I suggest not reading them.
Our country has changed. Our kids have different interests. At some point, those who are currently participating in the NHRA and its status quo posture will soon grow older and at some point, leave without that void filled by someone else. Unfortunately, that has been happening in the stands, and you simply can not grasp that fact, or why. And again, you are closed minded to the facts, and call me names for pointing out the absurdly obvious.
Just what is attractive about the NHRA to those young people who aren't interested in motor sports?
It isn't Courtney Force....
..and you still fail to grasp or understand "why" those covers are all over the empty stands...
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Dave
Nitro Member
I am! Please refresh my memory on this..
HEMI6point1
Nitro Member
Yeah, me too.....
paoldtimer
Nitro Member
Not everyone has the financial means to physically go to a race but still follow the sport otherwise. C'mon Joe!
robslob
Nitro Member
I think that some folks on here are in need of a big ole nose hit of nitro. The NHRA is still one of the best places to get one. Maybe a Female funnycar champ would be a good thing for this sport. Did anyone see the Force family on CBS Sunday Morning? Racers are doing everything they can to promote this sport. Our hope is that the folks in Glendora are doing the same..
vegasnitro
Nitro Member
It does not make his point any more or less valid. You sound like a racer telling him he can't know anything about racing because he has never raced LOL.
Oh, I clearly remember that.. I don't remember which race it was, but it was early in T-Ped's deal with Force.
Force and Tony both leave, and Force goes up in smoke long before the 1/8th. Tony senses it, and did everything he could to fein breakage, and not grab the stick, but his momentum was too great.
If I remember right, Forces interview was so awkward, you thought Force thought he was interviewing there bare naked.
That's before team orders developed into the common cesspool the pro classes are in right now.
Nobody want s to pay top dollar and not see honest racing.. You know, where a racer doesn't need a blocker. Some great independents were struggling as it was, now they need to fund a blocker to hang with John Force's farce?
Wonder why most of the independents are gone?
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Team orders has nothing to do with the state of NHRA which I think is going along ok but not super. I believe most of the fans are at a race for the noise,nitro and the shear excitement that fuel cars provide and leave with out ever knowing there was a dive, which is why hitting the throttle during warm up's is part of what brings average fans out and we all know that is all but gone maybe leaving some fans thinking twice about coughing up 50 bucks.
I quit reading your post by the 2nd paragraph, your rambling gets old! You are Bored to death with the sport, you feel nobody is listening to you so you have to say it over and over again! You need to follow NASCAR or something, you obviously have a serious Void in your life!
Your out of the loop Cheryl, he hasn't gone cause the sport has gotten Boring, yet he comes in here once a week to remind us why is boring to him!
Jimbo
Nitro Member
I have never been a fan of multi cars teams in any form of racing because it tends to stack the deck and open the door for all kinds of weird things to happen.
Finding sponsorship can become a real challenge for single cars teams. I have seen first hand what happens when you make a presentation to a major sponsor and have them say to you why should we spend our money with you when we can spend it with another team that is willing to put our name on 3 or 4 cars?
Is is simply not an easy question to answer let along fair.
There have been many cases where drivers have been under orders to do things they really did not want to do.
I don't think any of us want to see any forms of racing become like wrestling if you know what I mean.
Just my opinion. Jimbo
Finding sponsorship can become a real challenge for single cars teams. I have seen first hand what happens when you make a presentation to a major sponsor and have them say to you why should we spend our money with you when we can spend it with another team that is willing to put our name on 3 or 4 cars?
Is is simply not an easy question to answer let along fair.
There have been many cases where drivers have been under orders to do things they really did not want to do.
I don't think any of us want to see any forms of racing become like wrestling if you know what I mean.
Just my opinion. Jimbo
The mutli car teams are a two edged sword. Like Jim said a team can bring for bang for the buck by plastering the sponsor on more cars but you open up the question of legitimate racing which only hurts a sponsor.
Lets not pretend that Force was the first though. As was mentioned somewhere Minor and Beck did so in the 80's and weren't there teams match racing and such earlier than that. It might not have been as obvious as it is now though.
The big question, and one that non of us really know, is if NHRA went to a 2 or 1 car limit, would that actually increase the number of cars out there. Would the 2,3,4 driver on teams now be able to come up with their own sponsor? Part of the deal with multiple teams is shared cost. Weather it be parts, transport, office cost and so on.
A lesser question is what defines a team? Same owner seems obvious but what if I own one and my wife another would they not be allowed to work together? (Matt and Angie) Does Hector have to fire one of his sons or does family get a pass?
What defines a team? Wilk and Tasca had that collaboration for a while does that make them a team.
When Steve Johnson had issues in Dallas, several other teams jumped in to help out. Does that make them a team now?
While some of those points may seem crazy, you know the first thing about rules is how to get around them. So people will try to squeeze around a team rule any way then can.
Lets not pretend that Force was the first though. As was mentioned somewhere Minor and Beck did so in the 80's and weren't there teams match racing and such earlier than that. It might not have been as obvious as it is now though.
The big question, and one that non of us really know, is if NHRA went to a 2 or 1 car limit, would that actually increase the number of cars out there. Would the 2,3,4 driver on teams now be able to come up with their own sponsor? Part of the deal with multiple teams is shared cost. Weather it be parts, transport, office cost and so on.
A lesser question is what defines a team? Same owner seems obvious but what if I own one and my wife another would they not be allowed to work together? (Matt and Angie) Does Hector have to fire one of his sons or does family get a pass?
What defines a team? Wilk and Tasca had that collaboration for a while does that make them a team.
When Steve Johnson had issues in Dallas, several other teams jumped in to help out. Does that make them a team now?
While some of those points may seem crazy, you know the first thing about rules is how to get around them. So people will try to squeeze around a team rule any way then can.
