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Jon Asher

Many of us grew up having Dave McClelland and Steve Evans as the announce team. They set the bar to an elite level where we would be foolish to think anyone else can come close to that standard. Paul is doing a better job and is decent (IMO) but compared to what we have had in the past it isn't even comparable and that is no fault of Paul or anyone else who follows in the booth.
 
Many of us grew up having Dave McClelland and Steve Evans as the announce team. They set the bar to an elite level where we would be foolish to think anyone else can come close to that standard. Paul is doing a better job and is decent (IMO) but compared to what we have had in the past it isn't even comparable and that is no fault of Paul or anyone else who follows in the booth.

And there you have it......no one will ever measure up to Dave and Steve. Those were the days, for many reasons.
 
OK this is kind of nit-picky, but don't you think Paul & Mike look out of place wearing a tie and jacket to commentate? How about just a nice ESPN Polo shirt? I miss the old "NHRA Raceday" set, out in the pits, right in the middle of the action. I understand what they do in the truck during a race, but I still think they could still incorporate that "out in the pits" feeling a little better. NASCAR still does a good job of this during thier shows.

If they bring in Muldowney for that.....I will struggle with the decision; but I won't say I'd never watch again. I would hope they'd keep her on tight, almost-scripted reigns.... that's not the place to start attacking people or blabbing opinions off the cuff or showing favoritism....and it's not a marketing platform to ramble off all these great plans you have but without financing. Seriously - whoever they put in there, they need some quality control. Learn from a guy like Troy Aikman.... have some class in the booth; don't try to settle old scores or throw daggers because it will send people away.
 
You know, when I used to watch the NHRA on TV, I never watched "for the announcers". I watched to see what happened at the race. It would be nice if the NHRA had so few problems that this would be a major point of contention.

that's my point, I don't think anybody watches for the announcers....and it's a problem when one of them makes himself so noticeable that it detracts from the broadcast...
 
that's my point, I don't think anybody watches for the announcers....and it's a problem when one of them makes himself so noticeable that it detracts from the broadcast...

Apparently, not everybody feels that it detracts from the broadcast that much.
 
Apparently, not everybody feels that it detracts from the broadcast that much.

I agree Barry. Paul Page earned my eternal respect with the compassion and dignity that he showed when he reported on Scott Kalitta's accident. Unfortunately, Mr. Page had several experiences with fatal accidents when he covered open-wheel racing, and to me he handled Scott's incident with respect and humility.
 
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Listening to Paul, away from ESPN Broadcasts, and reading elsewhere, the man 'loves' drag racing, and it is as much his 'roots' as Indy Cars.

You can't blame the man for what 'The Show' feeds Mike and Paul, tucked away in a small room, not able to view the racing except the same camera feed we are seeing, for his comments.

I'll take Paul over Marty(always made my teeth hurt) any day...

http://www.wforadio.com/components/com_podcast/media/20110705-paulpage.mp3

don't believe me, check this link

Guess this is why they make different flavors of ice cream. Not everybody likes the same thing. I'm sure Paul is a nice guy. I just can't listen to him broadcast a drag race. Didn't watch the Denver race tonight. Only plan to suffer through listening to him for the US Nationals for the rest of the season. Put a racer in here, be it Shirley, Snake, Whit or Cruz, and I'll listen all day. My two cents...
 
How many quit watching the TV shows because of the internet? If the shows not live, many people know who won before the Broadcast airs anymore!
 
You avoid watching the NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series broadcast due to Page doing the commentary?

Yes. I shut it off last night because of the commentary. Between Paul and Whitless (oh, dear me, really, Whit???) I couldn't stand it. Checked DragRaceCentral for the results and went on with my life.
 
As much I like Force it would be nice to give some other guys TV time.

As for the announcers.... yes Page was terrible when he first started but he's doing a fine job now. Okay he still flubs up now and then but nobody is perfect....
 
have generally been neutral towards PP over the years; don't mind his voice,
but last nite he still tripped over driver's names, confuses winner from loser, and calls driver's by incorrect name (although he corrected himself once).......
he's just not into nhra? or what?.....i realize he works many different sporting
events and that's got to be difficult to organize names, faces, series, sponsors
week in and week out, but the nhra is the 3rd? most popular motorsports
series in america, IMO the TV talent should know the subject matter almost
at instant recall
 
have generally been neutral towards PP over the years; don't mind his voice,
but last nite he still tripped over driver's names, confuses winner from loser, and calls driver's by incorrect name (although he corrected himself once).......
he's just not into nhra? or what?.....i realize he works many different sporting
events and that's got to be difficult to organize names, faces, series, sponsors
week in and week out, but the nhra is the 3rd? most popular motorsports
series in america, IMO the TV talent should know the subject matter almost
at instant recall

I could never agree more
 
Getting back to the original piece this thread was talking about, that Asher guy brought up some great points. If what he is saying is true, then the relatively piss poor coverage can be attributed to ESPN.

Although it could use some improvement, the show isn't all bad. How the show should be improved depends on who you ask, but they do cover the race. Maybe they don't always follow the most interesting stories, or ask the most interesting questions, or whatever, but they do cover the race... which is why I tune in.

But he also mentioned, probably correctly, that no matter how great the show is, popularity of the sport will not increase or decrease due to ESPN's effort, or lack thereof. Step inside a NASCAR fan and try to sell them the NHRA by showing them a 3.5 second top fuel run on TV... it won't work. Take that NASCAR fan and have them sit and watch a 3.5 second top fuel run from the stands.. that might work. The ESPN show is only catering to existing NHRA fans. If your really into the 3 or 4 pro categories - like the majority of those buying the tickets, I don't think you would not watched based on the quality of the show - (I say majority with confidence based on how empty the stands are after those 3 or 4 categories run).

I have noticed they cover Force relatively less nowadays, and show the super slo-mo more... and show the night time qualifying sessions more, so there is some improvement there. But as mentioned, there is room for improvement.

But some people expect the old TNN days with Steve Evans and Dave Mac - that's just not going to happen. They cannot be replaced. Even if they did come back, they would still have to follow whatever rules ESPN puts on them, so you might get Steve asking boring questions and setting up drivers on the top end to plug products. Double edged sword, ESPN2 is available nearly everywhere, but the show is sub par.

My own opinions FWIW

Not all drivers are good announcers. Seems obvious to me Shirley wouldn't be a good announcer, from what I've read, now what I know she has opinions on everything. An opinionated host doesn't make a good one. Mike Dunn does a great job. I thought Cruz did a good job too though.

Paul Page, annoying... but probably because I have it in my head he isn't truly passionate about the sport. I think he'd rather be announcing an Indy race over the drags. So every time he yells out when a great run happens, I think he's manufacturing that excitement because it's part of his job. This might not be true, but it's just my opinion, right or wrong.

Of who's out there today, I would like to see a broadcast team of the following:

TV Host: Bob Frey
TV Assistant: Mike Dunn
Top End interview: Alan Reinhart
Pit Reporter: Bill Stephens

If Alan reads this... as mentioned in another thread, I never hear you at the track. When your doing the interview at top end, the next pair is being fired. Anyone from the finish line to the start line cannot hear you. And that's a shame because I know of your top end interview skills from the IHRA races from back in the day. Similar comment to B Frey when he calls the Alcohol cars, I cannot hear him either.
 
Nick,

Thank you for the kind words, but are you sure you don't have me confused with someone else? I have never worked for IHRA.

And NHRA Drag Racing is the second most popular motorsport, not third.

Alan
 
Nick,

I have never worked for IHRA.

Alan

Researching the internet, maybe it was Bret Kepner that I'm remembering from the IHRA.

I'm racking my brain because I know I've seen you somewhere... late 90's - have you done interviews on TV? Those NHRA today live shows maybe?
 
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