Harve, we only make fun of you cuz: it's 49 degrees, we're freezing, 2 pairs of socks, fur lined boots, long johns, Parka jacket, gloves..... and there you are. T-shirt, shorts & flip flops, looking at us & laughing. I also hear 'wimps" once in awhile. OK, next winter, we're gonna divert yer flite to Flagstaff. Yep, Flag, 7000' altitude, and serious snow, icy roads, below zero, and all that. You'd have to wear TWO t-shirts, long pants, fur lined flip flops. I'll loan you my gloves, which I only wear when it's under 90.