I think your referring to Grubby's, that was a disgrace! I think NHRA needs to step up these fines or suspend some of these guys.
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I think your referring to Grubby's, that was a disgrace! I think NHRA needs to step up these fines or suspend some of these guys.
Nazgul
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Wow, Grubnic's oil down was that bad? When I saw it on television, I thought to myself "dang that's going to be a big clean-up!"
The Counterfeiter
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From - Chris Cook "F1 uses a SLK55 AMG Mercedes. The car is driven by Bernd Rosemeyer, DTM legend and in the passenger seat is a neurosurgeon with a complete triage kit."
I enjoy watching F1 on Speed because of the incredible technology and was fully aware of the medical unit that follows the racers at the start. And, you are dead on about NASCAR's use of local tracks safety teams.
But . . . we are discussing race cars on fire here.
I had serious doubts about the new Mater, but this thread is really encouraging - no bashing, and a lot of input from experts in firefighting technology. Let's hope someone from NHRA is reading this!
I enjoy watching F1 on Speed because of the incredible technology and was fully aware of the medical unit that follows the racers at the start. And, you are dead on about NASCAR's use of local tracks safety teams.
But . . . we are discussing race cars on fire here.
I had serious doubts about the new Mater, but this thread is really encouraging - no bashing, and a lot of input from experts in firefighting technology. Let's hope someone from NHRA is reading this!
I think NHRA should hire Scott Palmer, Joe Hartley and Dave Grubnic in a Safety safari school! They sure put on a Clean-up clinic this weekend!
I hear you, I think Scott Palmer oiled the track every pass this weekend. I wonder if the NHRA made them sit out the last session due to their problems.
I had heard they suggested(?) he sit out! Maybe they'll suspend him like they did Jack Wyatt?
Four Kalitta
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Although he did not consult me before the event, I am pretty sure that David Grubnic went to Indy with the intention of winning the race not losing in round two & oiling down the track.
Whether it is Grubby or any other driver that has an oil incident on the track they feel bad about it & they kick their own butts for it. These guys have sponsors, owners & others that they need to keep happy & this is not the way to do it so to suggest that they be "punished" further by having to clean up the mess or be suspended is asinine.
I don't care if it's the guy with more money than God or the guy racing on next month's house payment blowing up is NEVER on the list of things to do.
dog
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I'm still CRINGING watching the Reading qualifying show !! Watching the Safety Safari crew in firesuits scrambling out of the back of a pickup !!!
These guys are no so young and not so trim and fit !! (I'm not either)
A dedicated vehicle needs to be designed and built strictly for on track crashes and fires ! Time is very critical when NITRO & OIL is on fire !!!
I remember in the old days when it was "Safety First,Speed Second"
And back then it was "Ingenuity In Action" now it's only TWO words 'Ingenuity Inaction"...............
These guys are no so young and not so trim and fit !! (I'm not either)
A dedicated vehicle needs to be designed and built strictly for on track crashes and fires ! Time is very critical when NITRO & OIL is on fire !!!
I remember in the old days when it was "Safety First,Speed Second"
And back then it was "Ingenuity In Action" now it's only TWO words 'Ingenuity Inaction"...............
T.J.
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My thoughts exactly!!! It would be a very long clean up time for not only oil, but all the foam and/or water for that high powered cannon. I think the GMC does fine, but could use some modifying to the bed area. Maybe make the back end a platform bar type area(think trolley cars) where the SS guys can simply step off the back maybe a foot high or so instead of having to "hop out" from the bed of the truck.
The Counterfeiter
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From John - "These guys are no so young and not so trim and fit !! (I'm not either)" I hear ya! Unfortunately, it appears we may be starting to lose them. I think I heard Alan state that this will be "Lefty's" last year. If that's true, that Cajun will be impossible to replace.
Fire is not the issue it was in years past with new supression equipment (Wilk and Scelzi would be good examples from today). NHRA is going to have to take a hard look at finding replacements who inspire so much trust from the drivers when these wonderful people who have worked so hard for so long just can't do it anymore!
Fire is not the issue it was in years past with new supression equipment (Wilk and Scelzi would be good examples from today). NHRA is going to have to take a hard look at finding replacements who inspire so much trust from the drivers when these wonderful people who have worked so hard for so long just can't do it anymore!
Jim
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First off I do think NASCAR does need a better system then what they have now.
I think I posted this on the old Mater, but from what I heard Kenny Schrader say on the track PA that day I don't think Dale had a chance. He said he basically thought Dale had a chest injury from the amount of blood he saw. Now we know that Dale had bled (sp?) out. Shortly afterward when I heard him interviewed for either TV or radio he said he did not get a good look at the situation and so he could not comment on it. It sounds like NASCAR got to him and shut him up.
I took pictures that day and have a series of before during and after the crash. Kenny hopped out of his car and was the first to Dales car, he then backed away when helped arrived. One of my pictures has Kenny standing back with his hand on his head. You can see his look of disbelief as the track workers attend to Dale. I did not realize what that picture showed until I got the roll developed.
