Americans forgetting 9-11 Fast!

[Bob]

.........ruby ridge, waco, oklahoma, these are not blunders or blantant attacks, these are well planned incidents to usher in bills like 'homeland security' but no one wants to see or believe the big picture, which if were not careful will be a gunless American.

Dale Dribble is alive and living in Idaho!

 

[ProStockJunkie]

the difference between me and most people is that I believe that our government would not blink an eye while killing American people to usher in thier hidden agenda's,

First, I have to ask this..... why in the world do you want to live in this country any longer if you truly believe that about our government? If I believed such an incredible accusation, I'd be on the first plane, boat ... whatever, out of the U.S.

Second.... Just what are the government's hidden agendas? Please tell me.

 

[ProStockJunkie]

.........ruby ridge, waco, oklahoma, these are not blunders or blantant attacks, these are well planned incidents to usher in bills like 'homeland security' but no one wants to see or believe the big picture, which if were not careful will be a gunless American.

Your source for this statement is what? Please share your sources... these are pretty drastic statements and we should all have an opportunity to enlighten ourselves.

And while you're sharing this information, perhaps you would answer Tom's question about 9/11..... "What do you believe happened that day?" You thanked him for asking, but, unless I missed it, I don't recall you answering him.

 

[rollemup]

...........hey Jackee, I still live in America because it is still the greatest Country compared to the rest, but don't be mistaken what our government will do. Second it's not so much our governments agenda, but more like the big money that runs our governmet, its thier agenda and that is one world government, there I said it.

As far as the day of the bombing of the twin towers, you can't deny that, but just like the kenndy assination we will never know the truth, but I can't with 100% deny that our government had nothing to do with the bombing.

As far as sharing sources, I said that all my information is public, I don't have the time to type all the places and people I've talked too, but its there, all you have to do is research it.

As far as blunders and blantant attacks go those too you can't deny, it's the planning behind them I was trying to address.

I hope I answered all your questions Jackee, if not let me know.

 

[stanman]

... you can't deny that, but just like the kenndy assination we will never know the truth, but I can't with 100% deny that our government had nothing to do with the bombing.

You are completely dilusional!!

The 9/11 Commission report provided detailed info that Mohammed Atta and some of the other hijackers met with Iraqi Intelligence agents in Germany months before 9/11.

Beyond that...

No one in the Bush administration or anyone else that I'm aware of ever implicated Iraq or Saddam in the 9/11 attacks. Iraq was just next front in the war on terror.

And deny it all you like but Iraq is the front line in the war on terror!

The Iraq Study Group's recommendation for negotiating with Iran and Syria for trying to end the activities of the terrorist insurgents is like Neville Chamberlain signing a treaty with Hitler!!

 

[ProStockJunkie]

...........hey Jackee, I still live in America because it is still the greatest Country compared to the rest, but don't be mistaken what our government will do. Second it's not so much our governments agenda, but more like the big money that runs our governmet, its thier agenda and that is one world government, there I said it.

As far as the day of the bombing of the twin towers, you can't deny that, but just like the kenndy assination we will never know the truth, but I can't with 100% deny that our government had nothing to do with the bombing.

As far as sharing sources, I said that all my information is public, I don't have the time to type all the places and people I've talked too, but its there, all you have to do is research it.

As far as blunders and blantant attacks go those too you can't deny, it's the planning behind them I was trying to address.

I hope I answered all your questions Jackee, if not let me know.

I know you believe you've answered the questions, and that is all that matters, I suppose.

No one asked you to share all of your sources. One credible one would be sufficient.

How can America be such a great place to live, if 'big business' is able to control our government? Sounds like France would be a much better place to live.

I will agree that there are those who would like to see a 'one world government'. They're called Liberals. I don't believe you can accuse Bush of being a Liberal.

It's true, that we totally underestimated the resolve of the terrorists and that is why Iraq has become what it has become. However, letting them 'win' is unconscionable. Now the question remains, does America have to courage to do what is necessary complete the job. From the last election, it doesn't appear that we do. God help us all.

 

[ProStockJunkie]

. Iraq was just next front in the war on terror.

And deny it all you like but Iraq is the front line in the war on terror!

The Iraq Study Group's recommendation for negotiating with Iran and Syria for trying to end the activities of the terrorist insurgents is like Neville Chamberlain signing a treaty with Hitler!!

Give the man a cigar. Another one who 'gets it'.

 

[stanman]

... I don't believe you can accuse Bush of being a Liberal. ...

I've got to disagree with you on this point Jackee... Bush has proved himself to be anything but a conservative.

 

[ProStockJunkie]

I've got to disagree with you on this point Jackee... Bush has proved himself to be anything but a conservative.

Well, he's not in the league with Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry and the rest of the liberal loonies.

He still is against abortion, believes that 'marriage' is betweein a man & a woman, etc, and that's what counts with me. I don't agree with everything with him. I'm Pro-environment, against drilling in ANWAR, blah blah blah.

 

[megadeth]

Let’s see we lost a lot of credibility and influence with a lot of other countries and some allies not to mention Iran is a hair away from becoming a nuclear power along with North Korea.
You have China becoming and will be the next superpower with a bigger economy and influence then America.
Afghanistan is becoming more unstable because we didn't finish the job before we went off to Iraq and our forces are spread to thin!
I have friends who now live in this country that lived in Iraq for the last 20 years and one thing they have stated to me was that Democracy will never work in that country violence has been a way of life before we occupied them and it will continue when we leave.
It's a deteriorating situation my brother who is in special ops has painted an ugly picture of what is going on over there since the Afghan invasion which was warranted I have seen him maybe a total of 3 days since this war started and I do miss him and hope he comes home soon in 3 months he will have completed 30 years of service.
He has stated that a lot of the soldiers he has met and worked with are happy that the policies will be forced to change under the new senate and house because the current one isn't working.
This is from people who were and are there as we speak they didn't read some bullshit report of people who think they know what is going on over there but people who have and are still experiencing it so believe what you want I will take their word over any non-bias or bias report.
If you think 9/11 was the only attack that has happened on our soil against civilians then you guy's must have forgotten Oklahoma and the previous attack on the world trade buildings one thing is for sure it will happen again that is the world we live in today I don't like it but it's a hard fact of life.
Terrorism isn't anything new it's just new to us.

 

[stanman]

Bob,

It's only news to those that haven't been paying attention for the last 23 years...

Does anyone remember the hostages in Iran, the Marine Barracks bombing in 1983, the USO in Barcelona, the Khobar Towers, the USS Cole, the 1st World Trade Center bombing... and so on?

BTW... how many Americans know the current President of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, was one of the leaders of taking the hostages at the U.S. Embassy?!?

 

[megadeth]

Bob,

It's only news to those that haven't been paying attention for the last 23 years...

Does anyone remember the hostages in Iran, the Marine Barracks bombing in 1983, the USO in Barcelona, the Khobar Towers, the USS Cole, the 1st World Trade Center bombing... and so on?

BTW... how many Americans know the current President of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, was one of the leaders of taking the hostages at the U.S. Embassy?!?

You seem well informed Greg and so is Jackee it just hits me in the home front because I want my brother back home and safe and some of the stuff he has told me I can't begin to imagine.
Then when these so called reports come out it isn't even close to what I have heard and it's down out right dishartening if the American public only knew and seen the pictures he has shown me during his stop overs it's brutal.
And my friends Ara and Sorun have shown me stuff that I had no idea..... Pray for everyone involved they are going through hell right now with no end in sight!

 

[sharkman]

.........ruby ridge, waco, oklahoma, these are not blunders or blantant attacks, these are well planned incidents to usher in bills like 'homeland security' but no one wants to see or believe the big picture, which if were not careful will be a gunless American.

So how much did Timothy McVeigh get to blow up the Murrah building??? lets see, We'll make you a millionare to blow up this building full of government employees and thier children, then of course we'll smoke you after we catch you, but hey you can enjoy it for a few weeks. Oklahoma City and the WTC were Blatent attacks against us and our Government, Ruby Ridge and Waco were complete blunders by our own Government. The "conspirisy theroy" sounds good, and in the days of J. Edgar Hoover they might have worked, back when there wasn't a "watchdog" to watch the watchdogs, now a days there are too many people on the "hill". Clinton couldn't even smoke a cigar without getting caught Kennedy smoked all he could and never even worried about it.

 

[Toejam]

Bush has proved himself to be anything but a conservative.

I'll agree with you on Social issues for sure. His fiscal policy is truly NOT Conservative!

 

[ProStockJunkie]

I'll agree with you on Social issues for sure. His fiscal policy is truly NOT Conservative!

Personally, I abhor his environmental policies. However, I have groups & organizations that I can support who will fight for the environement.

Likewise, I am working through groups & organizations to stop illegal immigration and amnesty, by bombarding the Senate & Congress with letters, emails, phone calls and faxes. Lots of ground has been gained, although there is STILL a lot of work to be done.

People DO have a voice and can influence government. There are several groups that when you sign up with them, will send you links dircetly to the people you want to contact on whatever issue is coming up in Congress, Senate, White House etc. Can't get any easier, even for lazy folks.

 

[megadeth]

Personally, I abhor his environmental policies. However, I have groups & organizations that I can support who will fight for the environement.

Likewise, I am working through groups & organizations to stop illegal immigration and amnesty, by bombarding the Senate & Congress with letters, emails, phone calls and faxes. Lots of ground has been gained, although there is STILL a lot of work to be done.

People DO have a voice and can influence government. There are several groups that when you sign up with them, will send you links dircetly to the people you want to contact on whatever issue is coming up in Congress, Senate, White House etc. Can't get any easier, even for lazy folks.

I have emailed my congress rep and many others over these issues but it doesn't mean they will listen!
They tend to do what will benifit their own agenda, political career, a lot of public officials seem to forget that they are public servants and they are so busy trying to just hold on to their jobs that they don't do their job......

 

[ProStockJunkie]

I have emailed my congress rep and many others over these issues but it doesn't mean they will listen!
They tend to do what will benifit their own agenda, political career, a lot of public officials seem to forget that they are public servants and they are so busy trying to just hold on to their jobs that they don't do their job......

Sorry you've had that experience Bob. The groups I've been working with have had many successes

On one site, you can sign up with, check off your points of interest and they will send you emails each time one of them come up. By personalizing yourself with the site (zip code) they will send you links directly to all of your representatives.

I receive no unwanted mail from them or any other groups. You can change your preferences any time, (link provided) and select your form of 'activism'.