$10,000.00 Fine Refunded to J. Force!!

[RAPID]

I am assuming we will see this as a headline from NHRA since they thought so highly of all the WWF crap that it was the lead in, and they just kept playing it over and over and over again. I turned the show off, even after I waited up for it.

I mean hell, it can't be such a bad terrible thing John did since they kept showing it, and Paul and Mike kept bragging it up. So I assume they will be giving his money back.

Good call NHRA, sure am proud of the "New WWF" direction rather than drag racing,,,you know, the thing we all LOVE TO DO!! JMO

Rapid {Ya, I know I said when it happened they would do it this way. But, I hoped someone would show some class and not make us keep seeing/hearing about it}

 

[RAPID]

For the record, no I don't hate all things NHRA. I just think it is pretty silly to fine someone, then use it in all your advertising and your TV show. If they hadn't have levied a fine, and just used all the publicity it would be a different deal. Again, JMO.

Rapid

 

[yoda]

But, I hoped someone would show some class and not make us keep seeing/hearing about it}

ROTFLMFAO....

But I agree with ya Rapid- it obviously wasn't $10K worth of horrible actions and bad judgement because they couldn't stop plugging it... Hell, it seemed it was a good 20 minutes of the program - and time is money to those teams.....

 

[jackass]

Randy... actualy i thougth it was odd on how quiet Mike Dunn was on the subject during the broadcast......


Force and the guy from Sportscenter was awesome...loved how the guy admited he had no clue on drag racing... but thats how ESPN gets thsoe very candid.. non-scripted moments.. watch their other interviews.. guy who has no clue is given questions to set the person off... which it looks like he got ot John a couple times.....


I saw the show as a ESPN exerting their control on the broadcasts... they screwed the pooch years ago on NASCAR .. taped delayed.. not airing on time..etc..... (see the connection here).... maybe they had two roads to go... one make the hard core fans like ourselves happy... let it go and move on.. or milk it for everything its worth... keep the press up.. grow viewership... and hope they get a land rush in new viewers so they can charge more for comercial time..... they could care less for us core fans.... they want the new blood to increase the numbers......


in the long run its gonna be good for drag racing....


Billy

 

[Four Kalitta]

I just think it is pretty silly to fine someone, then use it in all your advertising and your TV show.
Rapid

I thought the same thing!!!

 

[yoda]

Watched it with a bunch of newbies... They could have cared less about the "incident" after the third go around on the subject (they saw the ESPN coverage on it after Indy), and a couple of them said it looked like it was as staged as pro wrestling... NOT a good look, ESPN- catch a clue please. The sport doesn't sell that way.

 

[Reese]

I just think it is pretty silly to fine someone, then use it in all your advertising and your TV show. If they hadn't have levied a fine, and just used all the publicity it would be a different deal. Again, JMO.

Rapid

I stopped watching the show and just turned on the computer to see where everyone qualiflied. Just let it go ESPN.
Also how many times they had to show John talking to the NASCAR guys. Was his scooter broken?

 

[yoda]

I stopped watching the show and just turned on the computer to see where everyone qualiflied. Just let it go ESPN.
Also how many times they had to show John talking to the NASCAR guys. Was his scooter broken?

My newbies knew who every one of the NASCAR guys were... And other than Ashley and John, pretty much clueless....

 

[Buddy]

I thought the same thing!!!

I don't think the fine was silly at all... If you take the heated argument away from everything: he still pushed an official which is against the rules... To take this fine away would be saying that you can do whatever you want to officials while your mad...

Doesn't make John wrong, bad, or evil; It just upholds the integrity of the rules and the seriousness of taking your anger out on officials...

CJ Curtsinger

PS. Haven't posted in nearly 6 months... Gosh, it's been a while...

 

[Z28LT1]

I don't think the fine was silly at all... If you take the heated argument away from everything: he still pushed an official which is against the rules... To take this fine away would be saying that you can do whatever you want to officials while your mad...

Doesn't make John wrong, bad, or evil; It just upholds the integrity of the rules and the seriousness of taking your anger out on officials...

Well put, couldn't agree more.

 

[RAPID]

Could somebody post the video of where he "shoved" the official. In the 500 times it has been played on TV he pushed an officials arm up. I don't think that is the same as shoving, or going after an official. If that had happened I would agree to your comments and the fine, probably not $10,000 grand but some fine anyway. Heck, I wouldn't have fined Whit $10,000 when he kicked his car after losing a race.

CJ, glad I could pull you out of the mothballs as a poster.

Rapid

PS, Sorry for bringing this "Getting Very Old, Very Fast" story up, but I just feel if it is such a cool thing to have happened, why the fine? If they changed their mind and decided that it was sooooo good for the sport and great for getting the media attention,,,,refund the fine. JMO

OK<OK<OK, I will drop it now. Back to the corner for me.

 

[mike]

I made it through about an hour of the qualifying show yesterday (fast forwarding on the DVD) and maybe 10 or 20 minutes of the eliminations today...it was nauseating, I think this was the final straw and I'm done with NHRA racing

 

[Bill]

So, then, it's okay to break the rules (shoving an official) as long as it makes NHRA some money????

Riiiiiiight.... LOL!

That kind of thinking sounds like someone who went to the Tom Compton school of ethics..

 

["Dr. Dirt"]

Question for the NHRA

* Was this a good thing - worthy of repeated showing, grandstanding and highlighting?

or

* Was it a bad thing - worthy of a fine?

It's my opinion they really need to make up their minds.

 

[Silly Savage]

"It just upholds the integrity of the rules": are you kidding? you used the word integrity when talking about any thing the NHRA is doing????
Plus...$10k fine? Big flipping deal, John got plenty of extra air time for Castrol, AAA, blad blah blah. How many times did they replay his run, show him in his fire suit arguing with Kayne Pedregon, blad blah blah. His sponsors are happier than pigs in sh*t...just him and Neff running in the 4x run would be worht $10k in airt time....

Pretty soon Vince McMahon will be President of the NHRA.

 

[yoda]

Question for the NHRA

* Was this a good thing - worthy of repeated showing, grandstanding and highlighting?

or

* Was it a bad thing - worthy of a fine?

It's my opinion they really need to make up their minds.

Two different groups, Doc... NHRA set a fine, ESPN used the incident for promotion.

Alan R- does Glendora have directorial control of the content for the show, or is it part of the contract with ESPN that they (the network) can produce the show as they see fit?

 

[Toejam]

Seeing the Incident replayed was predictable as usual, but the racing itself was terrible today! For the King of racetracks it sure didn't deliver good side by side racing like others have! Other than the 4 off races the show was a dissapointment!

 

[Buddy]

I don't see how you think bad events can't make good responses (in the form of media in this case) . It's much like finding out your spouse is cheating on you once you already filed divorce papers. You don't like the thought, but you know it will sound great in front of a judge!

CJ Curtsinger

 

[90-percent]

It is hypocritical of NHRA to fine Force for an infraction and then give John and Tony a spectacular amount of coverage in the subsequent races. That is sending mixed signals and it makes you wonder if the low buck teams aren't contemplating some pretend fights just so they can finally get some TV coverage? Or if sponsors are asking their racers to get into fights?

Here's the low buckers from Charlotte

Pat Dakin, Doug Foley, Terry McMillen, Terry Haddock, Dom Lagana, Troy Buff, Justin Schriefer, and Andy Kelley.

If any of these racers break out into fisticuffs, you heard it here first!

Doug Foley went to the semi's! That is one hell of an achievement! I missed most of the TV..did they give him some face time? Same with McMillen - he took out Antron - did the TV folks talk to him at all? Just wondering.

-90% Jimmy

I did see part of the TV. It was nice to see John and Tony talking to each other again. It must be just one big fraternity out there. Camaraderie and all that.

PS - I did see Tony talking about Al Hofmann when he was asked about great rivalries. That was a nice piece of TV.

 

[none]

No different than others. NASCAR does it all the time. They all start out saying this is bad and should not be allowed and then they go to the video. Then they talk some more about it and then back to the video. Lead in the next commercial spots with updates to the issue and come out of commercial with more video. Then get both parties involved to talk like fools for 60 to 90 seconds of edited sound bites and follow that up with more video. Same crap different subject. NHRA / ESPN is doing alot of R&D on how to show off drag racing. There R&D is the old fashion rob & duplicate of NASCAR's handling of issues.