Why is 1320 so important to you guys?

[MM]

So after a few day's it seems the majority of those who have voted (50% as of 3:35pm on Sunday May 30th) believe the "HISTORY OF THE SPORT" is the most important reason why a return to 1320 is important.

However, as it's been discussed by NHRA and others, a return to 1320 would require a SIGNIFICANT reduction in performance. And the last time I checked, the "HISTORY" about drag racing has always been about MAXIMIZING PERFORMANCE... SETTING RECORDS.... REACHING BACK, GRIPPING IT AND RIPPIN IT... trying to knock it out of the ball park so to speak. If we return to 1320... This HISTORY and a MAJOR part of our sports Identity DIES.....doesn't it?

So... are you willing to sacrifice THIS area of History to protect a 'distance'?

Tim.....by that definition, i guess you are saying bracket racers are not drag racers? after all they are not maximizing their performance, they are trying to run an exact number and if they better that number, they lose.

 

[Tim5636sc]

Tim.....by that definition, i guess you are saying bracket racers are not drag racers? after all they are not maximizing their performance, they are trying to run an exact number and if they better that number, they lose.

No Minick that's not what I'm saying at all... the thread is about a RETURN to 1320 for Nitro Racers... it's not about the other classes that currently race within their rules... NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS DISCUSSION...

 

[rollemup]

....I didn't know an explanation was needed

 

[rollingthunder]

I am still trying to figure out how we went from safe to OMG
I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SAY FOR YEARS THESE CARS I STRAP
INTO EVERY WEEKEND IS UNSAFE.

You can't go from safe one day and the next OMG I AM SACRED.

 

[PJ]

Tim while we may all like to think its has always been about max performance that has not always been the case. The days of run whatever ya brung passed long ago, longer then many realize. Usually its been for the sake of safety but other times cars or systems have been disallowed(think kenny's batmobile)

Nitro % has changed many times and at one point was even outlawed by some sanctioning bodies.

Early 90's they went to a major rear end change that slowed the nitro cars for years.

You can only go so fast. Yes that sounds un drag racing but you can't outrace you equipment and your safety. Once those catch up then they advance again. When that gap gets too wide bad things happen. Until Blaine it had been a long time since we lost a nitro driver as the gap widen look at how many drivers we lost in a short time span.

History is part of it but the race is too quick. As someone said there doesn't appear to be the top end charges there once was. The lift and be done seems to be more common with less room to catch someone.
I can live with 1000' simply because I fear have no confidence in what they will come up with to get back to 1320. The idea of neutered nitro isn't something that I am interested in.

I don't watch arena football. Sure its football but half a field. 1000', sure its still drag racing but I know I'm missing more

 

[d'kid]

Oh, has any one realized this is really a flopper issue? Sure, pipe-racks 'kill the mill', and strange things like what happened to Ant do happen. But, they happen behind the driver, not in his face.

Spent most of this weekend watching the race at Vegas, enjoyed the heck outta watching 25 floppers try for an eight car field... and that was from the tower cam... watched alot of the March Meet on line also, enjoyed it more than a 'big car' show also....

Why? Because the Car take LONGER to made a pass, the only thing missing are the dry hops. And the Cars have NAMES. well, except Boychucks.... Even if it's only the Team's Names.... You can do Both, Princess' Place by Castrol, Top Gun by AAA, Brute Force by Castrol...

The question is, Is it the NITRO, or is it the time slips? And if you're going to run 2011 Mustang, make sure it has the roof line of a 2011 stang. Same goes for the Challenger, the Camaro, ect.

d'kid

 

[my friends call me Zappy]

However, as it's been discussed by NHRA and others, a return to 1320 would require a SIGNIFICANT reduction in performance.
So... are you willing to sacrifice THIS area of History to protect a 'distance'?

NO I'm not Tim. I would much rather have todays fuelers at 1,000Ft instead of some watered down version go 1320ft.

Remember the up-roar when they went to 85% ???
Just think how puney and weak they (nitro) would sound before nhra lets them go back to the 1/4mi........No Thanks.

 

[Dougster]

I was one of the "It's better racing" votes. More opportunity for top-end charges if you were a bit tardy at the tree, more of a chance to out-pedal if that's how it goes. I'd be okay with "neutered" nitro if it makes for better racing, fewer boomers and more teams.

 

[Sean D, shondoo]

Just think how puney and weak they (nitro) would sound before nhra lets them go back to the 1/4mi........No Thanks.

With all due respect, Paul, have you attended any of the Nostalgia events? These cars sound pretty stout to me.

Sean D

 

[mick]

saturday @ BIR div.5.......1320' runs by:
5-6 second alcohol cars - thoroughly entertaining.
6-9 second T/S, T/D and comp - thoroughly entertaining.
9+ second all other classes - thoroughly entertaining.

IMO increased performances to 1000' has lessened the entertainment value.
250mph @ 1320' is incredible
300mph @ 1320' is mind-boggling
what is 320mph @ 1000' supposed to mean?

 

[Nick Name]

I don't own a nitro car, so I race 1320' , so it is not an issue for me.

 

[rollingthunder]

saturday @ BIR div.5.......1320' runs by:
5-6 second alcohol cars - thoroughly entertaining.
6-9 second T/S, T/D and comp - thoroughly entertaining.
9+ second all other classes - thoroughly entertaining.

IMO increased performances to 1000' has lessened the entertainment value.
250mph @ 1320' is incredible
300mph @ 1320' is mind-boggling
what is 320mph @ 1000' supposed to mean?

It means when Alan R. asked Alan Johnson and Austin Coil if they could make the car run any faster to 1000ft and they said NO WAY. Someone was wrong.

 

[mike]

I'd like to go back to 1/4 mile because all the cars should be racing the same distance (for track prep and general constancy) and it would be beyond stupid have all the rest of the cars race to 1000'....but it wouldn't surprise me if that's what ends up happening

but I voted to improve racing...I love a good top end charge, but what do I know, I'm just a fan...

 

[sammi]

There are certain numbers in sports that should not be changed. 100 yards, 60'6",500 miles and 1320 feet. Fuel team CHOOSE how far their cars go before they go into the red zone. Fans(an ever shrinking number judging by what the grandstands look like this year) CHOOSE to come to the races.

 

[my friends call me Zappy]

With all due respect, Paul, have you attended any of the Nostalgia events? These cars sound pretty stout to me.Sean D

Yes Sean, I attend a lot of nostalgia events. I love them. And yes they sound great. My point is, that to slow todays T/F + F/C cars down to 280MPH or so, would mean a drastic change in power and sound. I don't think the fans would care for them. Just to go 320 ft farther.....??

Not worth it in my opinion

Say goodbye to 1320 folks...it's gone.

 

[Toejam]

With all due respect, Paul, have you attended any of the Nostalgia events? These cars sound pretty stout to me.

Sean D

Compared to Today's cars Sean there's NO comparison! I will admit I like the Idle sound of the N/FC's, but once that Tree comes down the Nostalgia car aren't in the same Time zone!

 

[mick]

.....that to slow todays T/F + F/C cars down to 280MPH or so, would mean a drastic change in power and sound.......

i can't wait.

A) less power @ 280mph?.......please, do it tomorrow.

b) drastic change in sound?........you mean go back to how they sounded
when they actually ran 280mph?.........please, do it tomorrow.
sound kicked ass over what they sound like today.

 

[Nitrohelper]

...the Nostalgia car aren't in the same Time zone...

Of course Joe is correct,
That's because of 8000+ hp with 45% over on a 14.71 vs 3000+ hp with 18% on a 6.71...
We have 100% Nitro at idle, but then they have big wind, kinda like some board postings.........

 

[Bullet]

1320 is so important to me for the same reason Bob Glidden should always be in a Ford, John Force always in a Funny Car and Joe Sherwood always taking photo's of hot chicks..... BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE!

 

[Sean D, shondoo]

Yes Sean, I attend a lot of nostalgia events. I love them. And yes they sound great. My point is, that to slow todays T/F + F/C cars down to 280MPH or so, would mean a drastic change in power and sound. I don't think the fans would care for them. Just to go 320 ft farther.....??

Not worth it in my opinion

Say goodbye to 1320 folks...it's gone.

Compared to Today's cars Sean there's NO comparison! I will admit I like the Idle sound of the N/FC's, but once that Tree comes down the Nostalgia car aren't in the same Time zone!

I hear what you guys are saying, but keep in mind that if they make a change it will likely be somewhere in the middle of the Nostalgia cars and what we have now. Obviously, they're not going to slow them down to what we're seeing with the current Nostalgia cars, but if their goal is to remain around 300Mph @ 1320-feet, they're still going to be making some pretty good power and it will be a great show. Especially if the changes lighten the financial load to the point where more teams can show up.

As long as they're running on 100% and running in the neighborhood of 300Mph, I'm just not seeing it as the crushing blow many are making it out to be.

Sean D