Bobby Bennett
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ANDRA PRO SERIES TO RACE DIFFERENT DISTANCES
It's simple, race quarter where you can.
1000 where you can.
It's simple, race quarter where you can.
1000 where you can.
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What Can't The NHRA Do This?
- Thread starter Bobby Bennett
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I agree! I've been preaching this for over 5 years now! NASCAR has sure made multiple racing distances work! Matter of fact, one of their most popular stops - the Bristol night race - is one of the slowest of all. Just goes to show you that close competition is as much the draw as anything.
I think varying track distances would add a much needed degree of complexity to a sport that oftentimes seems - at least in the pro ranks - too easy.
I think varying track distances would add a much needed degree of complexity to a sport that oftentimes seems - at least in the pro ranks - too easy.
That's what I was wondering......
clwill
Nitro Member
I've been saying this all along. No other motorsport races on identical tracks. No two baseball stadiums are alike. Neither are golf courses. Even regimented fields like those in football, tennis, or soccer all differ.
Heck, even drag racing tracks differ: think Denver for example. Or even the difference between tracks that have different surfaces.
I'm still waiting for anyone to come up with a good reason NOT to do this.
Heck, even drag racing tracks differ: think Denver for example. Or even the difference between tracks that have different surfaces.
I'm still waiting for anyone to come up with a good reason NOT to do this.
Be pretty tough to switch tune-ups race to race!
clwill
Nitro Member
Oh, you mean like when they go to Denver? Or when they run in 60degrees one week and 90degrees the next?
Pffftt...
vegasnitro
Nitro Member
I agree Joe. NHRA will monitor the season in Australia to see how it plays out. Let them be the guinea pigs so to speak. If it works, it may create a situation where going back to a quarter mile at places like Vegas and Gainesville might be feasible. The second scenario to consider is the event insurance. Would a promoter be willing to pay more to run the pros to a quarter mile with a negligible increase in attendance?
Ask any crew member how many parts they kill at Denver! It's the most expensive race every year Bar none!
clwill
Nitro Member
But they CAN race it. And if they did it more often, they wouldn't be so bad at it. There would be only two distances, not 20+...
funnycarguy
Nitro Member
Change the gpm and and use that msd graph. Add what ever to the headgaskets etc. Come on.....there is no reason why they couldn't run different course lengths. My biggest concern is can the tires handle the speeds now at 1/4 mile because some have gone pretty fast to a 1000 ft. Will that translate to 330+ mph on a regular basis.
Tuners tune.....
Personally I don't have a problem with a 1000 ft......just as long as everyone is safer.
Tuners tune.....
Personally I don't have a problem with a 1000 ft......just as long as everyone is safer.
DrRocket
Nitro Member
Because some "purists" would pitch a fit????
Teams only have to change their tuneup if they want to be competitive with the top teams... Hmmm like nowadays... A 1/4mile tuneup works on a 1000ft track just fine... same as it would on an 1/8th mile track...
And more "purists" will agree with different track lengths since they will get the beloved quarter mile back at at least some tracks...
And more "purists" will agree with different track lengths since they will get the beloved quarter mile back at at least some tracks...
NitroMustang65
Nitro Member
/NHRA Management/ "Because we said so, that's why" /NHRA Management/
Seriously I don't think it's an issue of why can't they do it, but that they won't do it.
Jim
Nitro Member
Did I miss something?
I don't think there's any great clamor (or neccessisity) to move one NHRA National event to an eight-mile track. While some readers have concluded that 1/4 mile could / should be run on some tracks, that doesn't seem to be the point of the article.
BTW: I think running different distances is an idiotic idea. NHRA does not need to add another cost figure to the sportman or pro budget.
>>>>>>The Australian National Drag Racing Association (ANDRA) board has approved the use of shorter racing distances including eighth mile (201.1 metres) and 1000 feet (304.8 metres) for championship racing.<<<<<
I don't think there's any great clamor (or neccessisity) to move one NHRA National event to an eight-mile track. While some readers have concluded that 1/4 mile could / should be run on some tracks, that doesn't seem to be the point of the article.
BTW: I think running different distances is an idiotic idea. NHRA does not need to add another cost figure to the sportman or pro budget.
>>>>>>The Australian National Drag Racing Association (ANDRA) board has approved the use of shorter racing distances including eighth mile (201.1 metres) and 1000 feet (304.8 metres) for championship racing.<<<<<
I suggest this months and months ago. Sonoma is perfect, Indy is perfect. I'm sure there are a few more I just can't think of. E-Town, Pomona, Never.
Jim Head told me he avoids Denver for that reason! You need much higher Compression, Blower, etc...
Exactly Chris, That has also been my defense since day 1. It seems to be either all or never again as far as 1320, I think it should be more like 1/3 of the time and then 1000 ft. I think there is 3-4 tracks that have the ample room. These cars are not accident prone every run, yes they are dangerous, but the lives we lost and injures that have happened in this sport are a small, small amount. Like the percentage of successful plane flights to crashes, yeah we are not that good, but we are pretty impressive.
Run them 1320 a few times a year, and tell the insurance company to be ok with it, (i see that being the biggest problem) because you can just as easily die at 1000 ft or die at 1320. I don't mean to be so blunt, but that's what it is. Scott's death was due to 1320 racing at a track that was pushing the limits with it's room for a long time. (Pomona also) So, lets fix that issue and not race at places without the room, because as the sport is now instead of blowing up at 1220 their blowing up at 900. The cars are mechanically under the same pushed to the limit stress as before and the only different is about 10 miles an hour in FC and TF.
Only good thing is the extra 320 feet of stopping distance, but go to a track that has a great shutdown screw the extra 320. If people remember, I did make a case where how fast do the cars need to go at 1000ft to make the extra 320 not benefit, I think I thought if the cars hit 350. I'm no physics major, so I can't really say.
