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Ummm, HELLO ESPN???

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I thought we had settled all this. If you record the coverage, set your recording medium of choice (in my case a DVR) to record at least an extra hour if there is any kind of live event on before the finals.
If you watch it when it's on, be sure to have a pitcher of margaritas mixed and ready prior to start time and some snacks to help pass the time. :D

My only problem was I didn't set my DVR, hubby did, so I didn't get to watch the end of it but that's OK. Ish happens.

Besides, didn't NHRA renew its contract with ESPN last year? So, we have to deal with it whether we like it or not. For a while.

I'm so busy with the baby these days anyway I DVR it more often than not. Just factor in at least an extra hour on the tail end just in case. Problem solved. As much as it can be solved from our end of things.
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I did have an extra hour. The recording ended just as Force and Hight were doing their burnouts. That extra hour would have been entirely long enough had the live game finished. It was the switch to the old game that ran the recording out the back.........:mad:
 
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I did have an extra hour. The recording ended just as Force and Hight were doing their burnouts. That extra hour would have been entirely long enough had the live game finished. It was the switch to the old game that ran the recording out the back.........:mad:
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That sucked, I had the same problem, missed the final runs of FC and TF.
 
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Plain and simple...this is all about Marketing revenue to ESPN. The network will run programming with the most promotional value (advertising revenue). What we all saw yesterday was that women's softball sells more advertising dollars for ESPN than Drag Racing does. If our product were worth more to them, the softball game would have been delayed, not the racing.

This is a basic fact in the broadcasting industry. I've been in the Radio industry for 26 years and have seen this in our industry as well. When Drag Racing's value goes up we won't be pre-empted for anything...including softball games. One previous post suggested boycotting the advertisers, that only makes the situation worse. Let's do as MUCH business as we possibly can with the companies that market their products and services during race coverage. As we drive their revenue they'll invest more in race coverage. That's the ultimate scenario for all of us.
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I am a bit skeptical about the dollar value of girls' softball, but I'll take your point.
I agree that advertising is one of the factors.
There is more to it.
Both the NHRA and your cable/satellite provider are customers of ESPN. They have the clout to get this nonsense fixed. It is nonsense and it should be fixed. Glendora is too lazy and weak-willed to insist on changes and the cable providers are just vacuuming up your cash.
The "that's the way it is in this industry" answer is truly lame. It's like hearing "Whoops!" in the operating room. Professionals don't hide behind that sort of excuse to justify their inability to do their jobs.
I added an hour to my DVR for recording. I didn't get to see the final round of Funny Car and Top Fuel (go, Doug!). Nor can I make a series recording of NHRA Drag Racing.
Comcast doesn't care.
Try calling someone who cares, but not if you have blood pressure issues.
Cheers,
Ed
 
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That sucked, I had the same problem, missed the final runs of FC and TF.
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This is a bummer. Hopefully there's video on NHRA.com? My recording got cut off after second round.

I would like to see the agreement between NHRA and ESPN change but it seems like we're stuck with this set up until 2016.
NHRA, ESPN agree to five-year contract extension - ESPN

I would love to have faith in the possibility that NHRA could re-negotiate the contract prior to its expiration to eliminate the fact that we as fans have to work around its shortcomings but I simply don't.

I may just start recording the middle of the night re-broadcast of eliminations a few days later with the hope that will completely resolve it for me.

The only way to really get NHRA to change this is major national publicity. Bad publicity. And I'm not even sure that would work but that's the only strategy I can think of and you'd have to find a reporter (and it's not me) to write about it who could do it in such a way it would go viral and put significant pressure to change.
 
Ed Arcuri; I am a bit skeptical about the dollar value of girls' softball, but I'll take your point.
I agree that advertising is one of the factors.
There is more to it.
Both the NHRA and your cable/satellite provider are customers of ESPN. They have the clout to get this nonsense fixed. It is nonsense and it should be fixed.

Cable and Satellite providers have no clout whatsoever on the programming decisions of networks. Can you imagine all the Cable systems in America expressing their various programming suggestions to a network? That would be unmanageable. :eek:
 
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OK, your argument makes sense. What do you propose to get more viewers to watch drag racing? It is a catch 22. We don't get a better time slot until we have more viewers, but we won't have more viewers until we have a better time slot, reaching viewers outside our sport notwithstanding.
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The best solution would be inside other ESPN programming. If NHRA bought commercial time with ESPN during other programming, it would send additional viewers to our programming. That would drive additional viewers to drag racing. It would probably influence ESPN to make sure they were maximizing the commericial rates they charge to advertisers in our programming, especially from a good customer like NHRA.

To summarize; we drive additional viewers to our programming. That in turn drives up commercials rates ESPN charges to companies inside our programming. That is the route towards top tier programming on a network level.
 
I doubt Speed will deal ! Those NASCAR fans are raising bloody cane about Pinks All Out and Pass Time !
A lot of repeats are canceled and Pass Time a personal favorite of mine barely escaped canceling !
Jeez I don't watch NASCAR but I would not want it canceled ! B Tards !
 
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Ed Arcuri; I am a bit skeptical about the dollar value of girls' softball, but I'll take your point.
I agree that advertising is one of the factors.
There is more to it.
Both the NHRA and your cable/satellite provider are customers of ESPN. They have the clout to get this nonsense fixed. It is nonsense and it should be fixed.

Cable and Satellite providers have no clout whatsoever on the programming decisions of networks. Can you imagine all the Cable systems in America expressing their various programming suggestions to a network? That would be unmanageable. :eek:
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Actually, I can imagine cable systems and the NHRA expressing their opinions. It may be the case that ESPN doesn't believe they have to listen to their customers, but that wouldn't make them unique. They will listen when they are negotiating the prices they charge for their service.
This is not the sort of problem that requires an entire rework of an industry. It just requires some common sense. I'm sure someone at the NHRA or ESPN or a cable company or a dish company has some common sense. If the programmers don't get it, ask the janitor.
Cheers,
Ed
 
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