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Team Size Limits

Just in case you forgot, Formula 1 is in an entirely different universe from NHRA. Here's [1] an article about whether or not physiotherapists count in the team size limits in Formula 1. Yes, people are struggling to fit under the sixty (60) person limit per car.

Wow.

[1] FIA clarifies rules on use of physios - Racer.com

And the payout for the Constructors Championship is over $500 million, divided between the top 10 finishers.

The driver's championship pays nothing.

Just a totally different universe.
 
A little perspective, not much different than NHRA Top Fuel or Funny Car. :)

Their figure is WAY low. Massa is a pay driver at Ferrari, several Brazilian businesses keep him in that seat, including Phillip Morris's South American interests. In that same vein, it is no coincidence Santander went from McLaren to Ferrari at the same time Fernando Alonso did. Paul di Resta is a pay driver at Force-India, though no cash changes hands, di Resta is a Mercedes driver and Force-India use Mercedes engines, di Resta accounts for half of the $35 Million dollar engine bill. There is NO DRIVER at Caterham, Force-India, Marussia, Sauber, or Williams that isn't bringing money.

The article's assertion that there was only 1 pay driver in 2008 is downright laughable.

It is the same in IndyCar racing, NASCAR more and more, and as it pertains to the original post, definitely in NHRA professional racing.

There are only 2 ways to get into ANY professional racing series, be born into it (Andretti, Earnhardt, Force, Rosberg) or scratch out a big check (or have sponsors that will).
 
Just in case you forgot, Formula 1 is in an entirely different universe from NHRA. Here's [1] an article about whether or not physiotherapists count in the team size limits in Formula 1. Yes, people are struggling to fit under the sixty (60) person limit per car.

Wow.

[1] FIA clarifies rules on use of physios - Racer.com

It must be remembered that the 60 person limit per car is only for the personnel that travel to the track. McLaren and Ferrari both have upwards of 500 people working on the F1 team, most stay back at the factory developing new parts, software simulations, running the wind tunnel etc.
 
This used to be a drag racing site, right?

How many people are in the Yankees or Bronco's organizations?

Where's Jerrod?
 
A lot. So are you saying the NHRA should limit the amount of paid personal working on a car or the amount of cars owned by one owner?
 
Wow, talk about missing the point...

All I was saying is that F1 teams are straining against a limit of at the track people per car of 60 people. As was noted, some of the teams have over 500 total personnel, with budgets that exceed all but the largest drag racing parts suppliers.

My guess is that the best funded cars in NHRA have maybe 10-12 people per car. And maybe all of JFR is 60 people. But I could be way off.

My only point was how incredible the comparison was. That's it. I thought it was interesting.

Back to your regular "complain about NHRA" threads...
 
Other than four tires and an enternal combustion engine, what does F1 have to do with drag racing? Apples and elephants...
 
Other than four tires and an enternal combustion engine, what does F1 have to do with drag racing? Apples and elephants...

Let's see: Competitive motorsport. Racing for purses and trophies. Televised. Magazines and internet sites devoted to them. Funded by sponsorships. Competed around the world. Pinnacle of their technology for the race course layout. Teams developing engines and technology. Focus on horsepower and aerodynamics. Crew chiefs. Pit crews. Fans.
 
Really? I thought this was an interesting data point for thoughtful people. Clearly I was mistaken.

I guess I left one off: people who think every other form of sport is stupid.
 
Because of the overflow of riveting threads here ...

Here was my thought process in bringing this discussion up here:

People moan here all the time about the fortunes of the sport, about the lack of attendance, about the poor funding, about how NHRA is screwing the pooch, etc. On the other hand, here is a competitive motorsport (along with NASCAR) that were started at roughly the same time period, but with vastly different outcomes. Exceptionally well funded, big audiences around the nation and the world, and so on. Pretty much have, in many ways, the kind of attention and money that people wish for drag racing.

I had hoped it might spark a "one of these things is not like the other" discussion. Perhaps some introspection on what these other sports have done well, what kind of promotion, sponsorships, audience-building efforts they have done that have worked for them.

But I clearly mis-judged. What people around here want to do is complain.

I'll leave you to it.
 
I thought it is an interesting thread. Then again, I love all forms of motorsport, and it is not entirely unrelated to NHRA from an economics standpoint.

Bill, when was the last time you saw Jerrod 'round these parts and why are you seeking his intervention? There are plenty of mods that could handle the thread as they deem necessary.
 
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