Should the break out rules be eliminated.

[afx421]

thats the rule in bracket racing, thats like saying should we ban the foul ball in baseball, it is what it is, its bracket racing and thats the rules, breakout means load it up on the trailer and go home, know your car and you win!

 

[BigDaddyB]

Maybe this will be as simple as I can address this point. Whoever gets to the finish line first is the winner regardless of any other factors.

 

[Muddy]

It all used to seem reasonable when everyone raced off the national record. That established the handicap between two classes and the first to the finish won. That's what drag racing was all about, first to the finish line.

 

[Sean D, shondoo]

Maybe this will be as simple as I can address this point. Whoever gets to the finish line first is the winner regardless of any other factors.

......................and like the point that has been literally beaten to death, you can do just that. Just get your wallet out and start spending. The boys and girls in all the aforementioned classes will welcome you with open arms.

I can't believe how long this thread has kept going.............wow.

Sean D

 

[twostep]

Maybe this will be as simple as I can address this point. Whoever gets to the finish line first is the winner regardless of any other factors.

You didn't need to make it simpler. This subject has been discussed before and it's not going to happen, no matter how much you wish it to happen. I can assure you eliminating breakout racing isn't even tucked away in the corner of Tom Compton's mind or anyone else's, save a few diehards who would like to see NHRA revert to flag starts, headsup finishes and no automatic transmissions.

You got 3 choices, Brucie. Get interested in Comp Eliminator, take it to the streets or take up another hobby. You originally asked "should the break out rules be eliminated". You have your answer and it is NO.

And don't start a thread on the perils of street racing, either. I mentioned it only to drive home a point.

Next.....

 

[Jeff]

Carl, Please don't taunt Bruce not to start another thread. Most of his complete sentences end with question marks.

 

[clwill]

Everyone who has ever uttered the "first to the finish line wins" line either has never raced, or at least has never really considered the impact of that statement. A certain someone will promptly argue the definition of the phrase "drag race" as in: it's not a drag race unless it's first to the finish line wins. Right...

These folks are so naive that they think the pro classes actually race that way, without handicap. They don't realize that all racing is handicapped in some way. Maybe it's the technical rules (500ci, limited blower size, a given fuel, and on and on). Maybe it's track prep that won't hold something beyond a given application. Maybe it's a handicapped start. Maybe it's a dial-in breakout. Maybe it's an index break out.

Let's be clear, unlimited racing ("run whatcha brung and hope you brung enough") doesn't exist. If it did, it would simply be a wallet race. Heck, even with handicaps in place, many categories are just that. One could argue that ALL categories of racing are subject to effect of wallet size, and no rules can completely prevent it.

But it's worth trying. If you don't like one type of handicap (breakouts) and prefer another (tech rules), fine. Just watch or race that.

I wonder if these people realize that on the racer forums (as opposed to fan forums like this one) people are actively arguing for an ADDITIONAL breakout to be imposed - based on MPH. Imagine the hissy fit these clowns here would have if there were two ways to break out.

Dear me, please let the season begin so these people can find other things to argue about...

 

[glofria]

Forgive me for jumping in as I really haven't followed this tread, but wanted to add my 2 cents.

We run in A/GS (a 7.60 index) here in Cal. with various organizations. Our rules allow for blown or carborated engines with no electronics in cars that are pre-1973 body styles. With a .400 tree and a 7.60 index, that means the closest to 8 seconds without going under is a winner. With no electroninc performance controllers and a variety of engine sizes and applications, it is not that easy to hit the number consistantly. That means there are other factors that one must consider; e.g. track conditions, wind, density altitude, and so. Anyone who thinks this is easy is only kidding themselves.

Sure we could run our car faster if we wanted to. But we choose to run an index becasue it fits our budget and allows us to enjoy other things in life by not having to work with it all the time.

 

[camaro]

breakouts are a necessary evil in several forms of drag racing, however what i would like to see is the elimination of sandbagging. The act of purposely slowing down in a 'drag race' must seem very un appealing to the casual spectator. Bracket racing would be 10x more exciting if both cars were going all out, the entire quarter mile. The show pinks was pretty exciting at times and it had all out racing and i believe the only way they could assure each driver kept his foot in it was with video, but i gotta believe there is some technology that exist that could monitor a cars mph for a 1/4 mile and detect if it is not accelerating.

 

[Nick Name]

Everyone who has ever uttered the "first to the finish line wins" line either has never raced, or at least has never really considered the impact of that statement. A certain someone will promptly argue the definition of the phrase "drag race" as in: it's not a drag race unless it's first to the finish line wins. Right...

That stupid statement leads me to believe you have never raced.

 

[clwill]

That stupid statement leads me to believe you have never raced.

I race all the time. Was quoting someone else.