Regarding edwards, krisher 2nd rd.

[Bobby Bennett]

DRIVERS BELIEVE HUMAN ERROR IN RD. 2 PS INCIDENT

 

[BigDaddyB]

What is fair about this BS

 

[JIMBO]

Can not play cry babby if Krisher's crew *****es

 

[Rat]

i think there should of been a restart. It was not normal whatsoever and nhra knows it, but instead never happend

 

[yoda]

What was so abnormal about Autostart?

 

[Rooster]

I think they should "Autostart" Drama King Stewarts retirement, and he could take the "Bumbling" Paul P. with him.....

 

[my friends call me Zappy]

Both drivers agree, there was a malfunction in the tree activation.
Both drivers agree, to a re-start.
Edwards had computer data, apparently proving that the delay in the tree, was more than double the allowed maximum.

So why did NHRA not do the right thing, and rerun that pair.??

Another question: why isn't the "autostart" system automatically activated when the pro-tree is activated?? Why is it left up to starter Rick Stewart, to turn on??

 

[NYNitro86]

Both drivers agree, there was a malfunction in the tree activation.
Both drivers agree, to a re-start.
Edwards had computer data, apparently proving that the delay in the tree, was more than double the allowed maximum.

So why did NHRA not do the right thing, and rerun that pair.??

Another question: why isn't the "autostart" system automatically activated when the pro-tree is activated?? Why is it left up to starter Rick Stewart, to turn on??

in the immortal words of Steve Mariucci "bummer"

 

[Dave]

Buster's just shakin his head.

 

[Johnny Mopar]

Another question: why isn't the "autostart" system automatically activated when the pro-tree is activated?? Why is it left up to starter Rick Stewart, to turn on??

When you think about it, there's no need for a manual push of the button. This should happen automatically when both cars are fully staged. There's little or no need for a "starter" anymore. I'm for re-writing the software and making the tree activation automatic and timed out for each classes staging procedures. That would eliminate human error and the very real risk of blowing up a $100,000 motor...or two.

 

[my friends call me Zappy]

When you think about it, there's no need for a manual push of the button. This should happen automatically when both cars are fully staged. There's little or no need for a "starter" anymore. I'm for re-writing the software and making the tree activation automatic and timed out for each classes staging procedures. That would eliminate human error and the very real risk of blowing up a $100,000 motor...or two.

absolutely correct, no need for an "official"starter anymore. Just a lineman for each Lane, to check for leaks.

 

[Larry]

absolutely correct, no need for an "official"starter anymore. Just a lineman for each Lane, to check for leaks.

Well Rick does have other duties like looking at his watch and disqualifying people for offences like staging with both sets of yellows twice !
Saw that one in Houston a few years ago.

Yep and leaks and stopping play when the call comes in from down track !

 

[my friends call me Zappy]

Well Rick does have other duties
stopping play when the call comes in from down track !

whenever a " STOP PLAY" call comes from down track, the tower just throws a switch, and the red lights begins flashing, signaling the cars to back out of the beams.(Just like now)

 

[Rat]

Both drivers agree, there was a malfunction in the tree activation.
Both drivers agree, to a re-start.
Edwards had computer data, apparently proving that the delay in the tree, was more than double the allowed maximum.

So why did NHRA not do the right thing, and rerun that pair.??

Another question: why isn't the "autostart" system automatically activated when the pro-tree is activated?? Why is it left up to starter Rick Stewart, to turn on??

Exactly, why? People wonder why people like me and others bash the NHRA. Simply when it comes to money, executive decisions, and race day moments like these and like many in the past, NHRA NEVER DOES THE RIGHT THING!

 

[vegasnitro]

While I agree with automating the start procedure as much as possible, there does need to be someone in charge on the starting line. 99.9% of the time, Rick Stewart is fine.

PS Kudos to Ron Krisher for being a standup guy about it and saying it should have been re-run.

 

[my friends call me Zappy]

PS Kudos to Ron Krisher for being a standup guy about it and saying it should have been re-run.

Yes two thumbs up for Ron Krisher

 

[BigDaddyB]

If guys look at the replay of the 2nd round, you will see Steward telling the tower that there was a long amber. Why was not something done then. It was caught on espn3 don't know if ESPN2 would have let that be heard. He knew it was jack up.

 

[DrRocket]

Starting line issues

While you can "automate" the starting procedure, thus taking it out of human hands, there's still room for glitches. Both mechanically and human induced. Racing is a human endeavor. As long as humans are in the loop, whether participants, officials, or as designers and makers of the equipment, there's room for errors and "oopsies."

I disagree with the idea that the "starter" position can be eliminated, with someone in the tower making decisions. I think you still need someone on the line with the ability to make "executive" decisions. If you get rid of the starter, and just have "spotters" looks for things, all that's going to happen is that the spotter will notice something, call up to the tower for a decision, and wait while someone in the tower, who's not "there at the line" to analyze the situation, make up his/her mind, and then relay the decision back down to the spotter, who (because of, noise, commotion, crew memebers yelling at them) may or may not hear clearly what is told them, and may ask for a repeat (While listening to more yelling probably by this time.) ESPECIALLY if it's a late round winner-determining crucial decision. All while cars are running, revving, doing burnouts, etc. Nope, that wouldn't work at all. You still need the "starter" IMHO.

As I said, it's a human endeavor, and humans screw up. Not always fair, but like the old saying goes, life's a bayou, and then you die.

 

[TR]

Re: Starting line issues

While you can "automate" the starting procedure, thus taking it out of human hands, there's still room for glitches. Both mechanically and human induced. Racing is a human endeavor. As long as humans are in the loop, whether participants, officials, or as designers and makers of the equipment, there's room for errors and "oopsies."

I disagree with the idea that the "starter" position can be eliminated, with someone in the tower making decisions. I think you still need someone on the line with the ability to make "executive" decisions. If you get rid of the starter, and just have "spotters" looks for things, all that's going to happen is that the spotter will notice something, call up to the tower for a decision, and wait while someone in the tower, who's not "there at the line" to analyze the situation, make up his/her mind, and then relay the decision back down to the spotter, who (because of, noise, commotion, crew memebers yelling at them) may or may not hear clearly what is told them, and may ask for a repeat (While listening to more yelling probably by this time.) ESPECIALLY if it's a late round winner-determining crucial decision. All while cars are running, revving, doing burnouts, etc. Nope, that wouldn't work at all. You still need the "starter" IMHO.

As I said, it's a human endeavor, and humans screw up. Not always fair, but like the old saying goes, life's a bayou, and then you die.

I agree you need to have a starter, someone who is in charge period. It is not an easy job, but a lot of people don't like Rick Stewart and have never felt he could fill Busters shoes. In racing sh**t happens.

Rick

 

[Rajunz]

Exactly, why? People wonder why people like me and others bash the NHRA. Simply when it comes to money, executive decisions, and race day moments like these and like many in the past, NHRA NEVER DOES THE RIGHT THING!

It's probably getting real close for you to find another sport to follow, huh Patrick???