PWC owners???

[Alan]

Any of my fellow maters own a watercraft?? We're in the market for one, and curious if any members have thoughts on them. We are gonna get a 2007 Yamaha VX Deluxe.

 

[T.J.]

We just recently sold our Sea Doo and never had any problems with it what so ever! It was our second and we never had problems with either! Only down side is when you have an expanding family (or a large group) as we did, it becomes more evident that a boat is the way to go. We enjoy the boat a bunch more than the PWC, but the cost difference between the Sea Doo and the Tige is a big jump!!!

 

[T.J.]

Also, if you are in no rush, wait until a boat show in your area at the end of season and "make an offer" to a couple of the dealers and let them know you are looking at several different PWC makers at the show. Dont be afraid to make an offer of half of what they are asking because dealers start to pay interest on all unsold models after the season ends and would sell to you just to move the model. We did that with our Tige and ended up paying nearly $17,000 less than what they wanted at the beginning of the season!!! We bought a new floor model at a boat show for less than if we bought a used model at the dealerships!

 

[Alan]

I've been bouncing prices between 4 or so dealers, so I'm playing 'the game' as much as they are trying to. One of them has finally giving us a price that I didn't even expect, maybe cause I've been a pain in the arse for about 6 weeks now. We'll see what happens, gonna go up to the dealer tonite.

 

[T.J.]

I hope it all works out for you so you can "hit the lakes" soon!!! Keep us updated it you got it or not!

 

[Shan]

I used to have a Polaris and loved it. I liked the fact that it didn't throw up that rooster tail of water from the back. LOL! But I called it my Harley on water because it had a meaner-sounding growl than the other ones. But it's my understanding they're not making PWC's anymore.

 

[Alan]

Yeah Polaris quit making them a couple years ago. I was told they had a lot of problems, but not sure if that's the truth. We checked into Honda, Yamaha, Kawi, and Sea-Doo. A Honda-Yamaha dealer will not even carry the Honda PWC because of problems, Kawi had no issues, Sea-Doo seems to have more engine issues since transitioning into 4-strokes (that came from a PWC board, not personal experience). All rental agencies around here and a resort area in florida we went to all use Yamaha's for the specific reason of reliability. And the VX Deluxe has some good aesthetics. I really liked the looks of some Hondas, and have always owned Honda bikes, but there watercraft apparently do not measure up.

We didn't make it up to the dealer tonite, but should tomorrow. I'll let you know of the results!!

Thanks Guys!!

 

["Dr. Dirt"]

Alan,
Listen to Tim unless you are obsessive about owning one right now. This is not the season to purchase any kind of watercraft. The off season is ripe for picking and there are those of us who prey on those who just can't wait. We're talking about 50% of the price for waiting in some cases for the very same unit.

We personally have five boats right now but never will own a PWC. We're their common enemy on the water. I have my kids and grandkids in the water waiting to ski and all of us in the boat spend all our efforts waiving PWC riders away from our skier and then away from our wake once they are up. We're not sure why they must hang out in my wake but doing so must be printed in the "must do" section of the "read before operation."

 

[Shan]

We're not sure why they must hang out in my wake but doing so must be printed in the "must do" section of the "read before operation."

I could only speak for myself. I always like jumping across the wakes behind the skiiers because I could get what i called good air time. And I was always careful to stay a safe distance behind them, but i did have a boat or two chase me down because their skiier fell, and they thought i was too close. I wasn't what I considered to be too close to them (at least a good 20 or 30 yards behind them), but I certainly respected the fact that they felt I was and apologized. It's all about respect for your fellow boaters just like on the road.

 

[Alan]

It's all about common courtesy on the water, and I have seen both sides. I fish in the California Delta, and the wakeboarders are horrible. The majority think they own the water, with no regards to the PWC's, fishermen, etc. I'll be using my head, I've grown up with dirt bikes, atv's, and snowmobiles, so this is another evolution.

 

[r2]

this is another evolution.

With all the type colors, I'd say it's an evolution alright...
Evolve back to basic font, and be done with the color crayons already... Or are you trying to use this as a color chart because the salesman says, I got a killer deal on this yellow beauty, but the blue one doesn't come with the horn and cup holder options...

Ride that thing on down here Alan, and I'll meet ya at the cantena... Just watch the wake boarders and drunks... And the gators as well... Holy Crap, what's that all about??

 

[Johnny Mopar]

We've had Yamaha Waverunners for seven years now and wouldn't want any other brand of PWC. They are heavier and slightly slower, but the hull design and additional weight make for a much more comfortable ride. It's also very economical on gas.

If you're interested in a bigger ride, we have our 32' Chris Craft Cruiser for sale. It's a 2000 model in near perfect condition and absolutly loaded with options. You could live on this boat...full time.

Drop me a note if you're interested...

 

[Alan]

With all the type colors, I'd say it's an evolution alright...
Evolve back to basic font, and be done with the color crayons already... Or are you trying to use this as a color chart because the salesman says, I got a killer deal on this yellow beauty, but the blue one doesn't come with the horn and cup holder options...

Ride that thing on down here Alan, and I'll meet ya at the cantena... Just watch the wake boarders and drunks... And the gators as well... Holy Crap, what's that all about??

Dang Ray, I think you have to much dust from sanding in your eyes

I'll ease up on the colors for ya!

 

[r2]

I like colors Alan...
Just pick one and be done with it... JOKING!!
And I hope you saw the gator story in the river at the Rio Vista bridge... They can swim up to 30 MPH while you are in the water waiting for whoever to come back and pick you up, after falling off your ski, or just taking a dip...

Folks, we don't got no GATORS this far west, in waters like these... Scary JAWS type stuff...

The thing that is confusing Alan is all the same avatar's and then the color changes in the fonts has me wondering who is talking to who and when...

No big, was just bored and your a pretty easy target... LMAO

Only 90 today!! Two thumbs up bro...

 

[Alan]

Oh nooooo..no dipping in the Delta....I fish in there only!!!!! And no eating the fishies!!!!!!

A gator in the Delta has to be a 3-eyed borderline monster.....

Only 90...pshhhhhhh

I need a week of 110+ so I can fix peoples A/C in the cars!!!!!!!

 

[Buzzz Miller]

We're not sure why they must hang out in my wake but doing so must be printed in the "must do" section of the "read before operation."

It must be. Cannot count the times I thought one was going to hit my boat trying to get too close when I was just gettin the bugs worked out of my L boat. It is not like I make a wake good enough to jump.

Ya just gotta either get to a spot where they are not, or don't even put the boat in the water.
If they need wakes to jump, then why can't they bring their own boat?
I have read one too many newspaper clippings about a PWC running into the side of a boat at my local lake. And I don't want to be in the paper anywhere near the words 'death', 'drown', 'accident', or anything of the sort.

 

["Dr. Dirt"]

I could only speak for myself. I always like jumping across the wakes behind the skiiers because I could get what i called good air time. And I was always careful to stay a safe distance behind them, but i did have a boat or two chase me down because their skiier fell, and they thought i was too close. I wasn't what I considered to be too close to them (at least a good 20 or 30 yards behind them), but I certainly respected the fact that they felt I was and apologized. It's all about respect for your fellow boaters just like on the road.

See what I mean?

Don't worry Shan it wasn't me who chased you down. I catch them and then we go swimming for a while to discuss it.

 

[T.J.]

I've been on both side of the fence and can tell you that MOST PWC riders are careless! When we were teaching a younger cousin to ski years back, we had a PWC rider getting ready to "pounce" on our wake as soon as we passed...not seeing the young skier behind our boat!!! He nailed the throttle and realized we were towing a skier and stopped and turned right at the crest of our wake!!! I honestly thought I was watching my cousin's final seconds of his life!!! My uncle who's son was the skier jumped into the water with my cousin while my father who was driving took off after the PWC who was "fleeing the scene" FAST!!! Lucky for us PWC werent nearly as fast back then and we were able to catch him pretty quickly. Lake police was called by people in another boat who happened see what happened and picked up the 2 in the water. Nobody was arrested, but the PWC rider was given more than 1 citation.

 

[Alan]

I've been on both side of the fence and can tell you that MOST PWC riders are careless! When we were teaching a younger cousin to ski years back, we had a PWC rider getting ready to "pounce" on our wake as soon as we passed...not seeing the young skier behind our boat!!! He nailed the throttle and realized we were towing a skier and stopped and turned right at the crest of our wake!!! I honestly thought I was watching my cousin's final seconds of his life!!! My uncle who's son was the skier jumped into the water with my cousin while my father who was driving took off after the PWC who was "fleeing the scene" FAST!!! Lucky for us PWC werent nearly as fast back then and we were able to catch him pretty quickly. Lake police was called by people in another boat who happened see what happened and picked up the 2 in the water. Nobody was arrested, but the PWC rider was given more than 1 citation.

Unfortunately this type of stuff occurs in every recreational area. Irresponsible dirt bikers, atv'ers, snowmobiles, etc. I've had streetbikes (crotch rockets..no Harleys!!!!) and I see the kids that by the fastest thing they can get, then ride as stupid as possible, wheelies on I-5 at 80mph. And then people wonder why kids get killed.....geeeeesh

My new sig describes the whole thing....

 

["Dr. Dirt"]

I'm not the kind to stereotype any class but I'll admit my weakness with PWC operators. We live 15 minutes from a big lake and, for many years skied two mornings a week. All my kids grew up on the lake and I can't count the times I nearly lost it over PWC operators. I can co-exist with fishermen and family lake cruisers. We understand each other's need for space and claimed territory but it appears no rules apply to PWC owners. I'm absolutely positive that a good number of PWC owners ride with responsibility and are unfairly being lumped into the "lake jerks" class with my remarks but when you've had family members endangered, time and again, by someone's irresponsible behavior you lose your patience and understanding real fast.

They also seem to believe their equipment is faster because they try to run away but when our slowest boat (21' Schiada) runs close to twice their top speed, they never succeed and a confrontation often follows. It's mostly educational in the end but somehow, I feel like I was trying to teach a tree to spell?

As you may have guessed, I could do without them altogether. I suspect, with the exception of my wake, they feel the same about me?