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At indy I had the nicest little old lady who was decked out in all kinds of John Force gear, she sat down and asked me if I was a john force fan and I said no , as the day progressed she wanted to get me a john force seat cushion , and i said thanks but I was good to go , then while walking the nitro alley i stopped and looked at the Force mustang , and when i returned , she asked if I saw the car and i said yes i did it was a great car but it didn't have a diving board as an accecessory , and the crowd around us all cheered , but a fun day it was had by al untill the storms hit
 
At indy I had the nicest little old lady who was decked out in all kinds of John Force gear, she sat down and asked me if I was a john force fan and I said no , as the day progressed she wanted to get me a john force seat cushion , and i said thanks but I was good to go , then while walking the nitro alley i stopped and looked at the Force mustang , and when i returned , she asked if I saw the car and i said yes i did it was a great car but it didn't have a diving board as an accecessory , and the crowd around us all cheered , but a fun day it was had by al untill the storms hit

Sorry MR. Barrett but I have to call BS on your story, Do you really think anyone on this site is dumb enough to believe that crap?:(
 
At indy I had the nicest little old lady who was decked out in all kinds of John Force gear, she sat down and asked me if I was a john force fan and I said no , as the day progressed she wanted to get me a john force seat cushion , and i said thanks but I was good to go , then while walking the nitro alley i stopped and looked at the Force mustang , and when i returned , she asked if I saw the car and i said yes i did it was a great car but it didn't have a diving board as an accecessory , and the crowd around us all cheered , but a fun day it was had by al untill the storms hit

*cough* bullsh*t :cool:
 
As I said before, it's quite obvious you WEREN'T THERE, you didn't see WHAT I SAW! For instance: The 1969 'Nationals Stock Eliminator Final between Billy Morgan and Tom Neja. The crowd wasn't in the pits, they were in the stands, on their feet and roaring as "The Bird" worked them into a frenzy. It ain't like that, no mo!

Here we go again, another Geezer who thinks any Drag racing after 1990 is Crap! You all need to start a support group...:confused:
 
Sorry MR. Barrett but I have to call BS on your story, Do you really think anyone on this site is dumb enough to believe that crap?:(

actually this nice lady was from the Charlotte area , retired and travels to various tracks , it was good fun by my crew , as i have had the same seats for 8 years now and she was new comer to the section , call it BS if you want , been called worse , so your attempt to ruffle feathers won't make it , I am not a force fan after the dive , and will continue to root for the underdog all the time
 
actually this nice lady was from the Charlotte area , retired and travels to various tracks , it was good fun by my crew , as i have had the same seats for 8 years now and she was new comer to the section , call it BS if you want , been called worse , so your attempt to ruffle feathers won't make it , I am not a force fan after the dive , and will continue to root for the underdog all the time

The check is in the mail, my Mercedes is paid off and it's only a cold sore! Lol!
 
Re: JFR is a sign of what is coming

Here we go again, another Geezer who thinks any Drag racing after 1990 is Crap! You all need to start a support group...:confused:

Joe, I like you, but your slamming attitude towards older fans of drag racing is just as lame (bad) as us geezers who DID attend drag racing in the 60's, 70's and 80's. I'm part of THAT group and if I'm not mistaken, you ARE a geezer too, at least by AGE. Why you didn't start attending drag races until you were approx 30 yrs old makes YOU the odd man out in this argument. Some of us GREW UP with drag racing unlike YOU. I was attending drag racing events at Beeline Dragway (AHRA Winternationals) years before I could drive a car. I used to pedal my Schwinn StingRay approx 10 miles one way just to see the funny cars I read about in Car Craft, Hot Rod, and especially Super Stock & Drag Illustrated heading to the track on their ramp trucks. I learned that the racers loved to stop for breakfast at a restaurant in Scottsdale Rd. & McDowell in Scottsdale and while the teams were inside fueling their stomachs, I along with my younger brother and another friend would be climbing on the ramp trucks and taking pictures of the cars that I had only seen in magazines. I wish I still had all those old pictures taken with a Kodak Instamatic camera (pitiful), but unlike Whit Bazemore, I didn't preserve that part of my history. My father finally relented one year and took my older brother and I to the AHRA Winternationals one time, and it was like NIRVANA. Unlike us kids, my father WAS a photographer and had a professional camera, a LEICA, with several lenses. He put himself through college as a photographer and never lost his love for it. He took the most amazing pictures of all the cars at Beeline that one year he took us, and those pictures would be worth some money right now, but in multiple moves they ended up getting trashed by my parents since they did not appreciate the value of them. I should have absconded with them when I was still living at home and kept them for safe keeping but didn't. The same thing happened to the model car collection that my brother and I built of 1960's Funny Cars that were stored and saved in boxes in our bedroom closets. Those model cars were one-off replicas of Dyno Don Nicholson's Eliminator II flip-top Mercury Comet and one of Gene Snow's early Rambunctious Funny Cars before corporate sponsorship by Revell. Also, there were a couple unnamed and unlettered Funny Cars that were just too beautiful to ruin the Candy Metallic paint jobs with sponsor decals and were not replicas of any car so they remained un-named. So, in a nutshell, I like others, grew up with the sport of Drag Racing, pre-NHRA only corporate racing, and I can speak from authority and fact since I lived it, that THOSE DAYS were awesome!! And, I even pursued Drag Racing as a hobby for several years. Have you? I lived and breathed drag racing up until about 1981 when I decided to go back to college and get my Bachelor's degree so I could hopefully make a decent income and afford an expensive hobby like drag racing. I never went back to doing it, even though I was successful at bracket racing my home-built 327ci 1965 Nova Super Sport. It was a strip-only car with a rear gear ratio in a Ford 9-inch that made it barely streetable. I couldn't afford a trailer or a decent tow vehicle so I flat-towed it to Beeline and SpeedWorld drag strips in the Phoenix area behind my daily driver. I even tasted victory at Beeline Dragway a couple times and once had the trophies to prove it, but those also went out with the garbage during one of my parents moves. So, now I'm Just-A-Fan like you, and not even as BIG a fan as you, since I don't spend most of my disposable income flying to NHRA races around the country to sit and watch the dwindling crop of bought-in drivers for multi-million dollar team owners. And that is NOT a slam against John Force, or Don Schumacher, or Connie Kallitta, etc. I appreciate them doing what they are doing for the most part. I'm not a doom-and-gloom person either, but if you can't see how NHRA might be in trouble when the BIGGEST current star of NHRA Drag Racing, John Force, is losing FORD and CASTROL at the same time in 2014, I think it is YOU that has your head stuck in the sand. And YES I know that the current reality for ALL motorsports and sponsorship is getting tougher every year, and I wish it wasn't so. I too love the sport of Drag Racing passionately, but it hurts to watch it go down the tubes incrementally every year. NHRA needs to "think outside the box", and not like what IHRA did, but get some passionate CAR people in key positions that also have great vision and leadership skills. More Bean Counters and Suits ain't gonna cut it. Not now and not ever. :mad:
 
Re: JFR is a sign of what is coming

Joe, I like you, but your slamming attitude towards older fans of drag racing is just as lame (bad) as us geezers who DID attend drag racing in the 60's, 70's and 80's. I'm part of THAT group and if I'm not mistaken, you ARE a geezer too, at least by AGE. Why you didn't start attending drag races until you were approx 30 yrs old makes YOU the odd man out in this argument. Some of us GREW UP with drag racing unlike YOU. I was attending drag racing events at Beeline Dragway (AHRA Winternationals) years before I could drive a car. I used to pedal my Schwinn StingRay approx 10 miles one way just to see the funny cars I read about in Car Craft, Hot Rod, and especially Super Stock & Drag Illustrated heading to the track on their ramp trucks. I learned that the racers loved to stop for breakfast at a restaurant in Scottsdale Rd. & McDowell in Scottsdale and while the teams were inside fueling their stomachs, I along with my younger brother and another friend would be climbing on the ramp trucks and taking pictures of the cars that I had only seen in magazines. I wish I still had all those old pictures taken with a Kodak Instamatic camera (pitiful), but unlike Whit Bazemore, I didn't preserve that part of my history. My father finally relented one year and took my older brother and I to the AHRA Winternationals one time, and it was like NIRVANA. Unlike us kids, my father WAS a photographer and had a professional camera, a LEICA, with several lenses. He put himself through college as a photographer and never lost his love for it. He took the most amazing pictures of all the cars at Beeline that one year he took us, and those pictures would be worth some money right now, but in multiple moves they ended up getting trashed by my parents since they did not appreciate the value of them. I should have absconded with them when I was still living at home and kept them for safe keeping but didn't. The same thing happened to the model car collection that my brother and I built of 1960's Funny Cars that were stored and saved in boxes in our bedroom closets. Those model cars were one-off replicas of Dyno Don Nicholson's Eliminator II flip-top Mercury Comet and one of Gene Snow's early Rambunctious Funny Cars before corporate sponsorship by Revell. Also, there were a couple unnamed and unlettered Funny Cars that were just too beautiful to ruin the Candy Metallic paint jobs with sponsor decals and were not replicas of any car so they remained un-named. So, in a nutshell, I like others, grew up with the sport of Drag Racing, pre-NHRA only corporate racing, and I can speak from authority and fact since I lived it, that THOSE DAYS were awesome!! And, I even pursued Drag Racing as a hobby for several years. Have you? I lived and breathed drag racing up until about 1981 when I decided to go back to college and get my Bachelor's degree so I could hopefully make a decent income and afford an expensive hobby like drag racing. I never went back to doing it, even though I was successful at bracket racing my home-built 327ci 1965 Nova Super Sport. It was a strip-only car with a rear gear ratio in a Ford 9-inch that made it barely streetable. I couldn't afford a trailer or a decent tow vehicle so I flat-towed it to Beeline and SpeedWorld drag strips in the Phoenix area behind my daily driver. I even tasted victory at Beeline Dragway a couple times and once had the trophies to prove it, but those also went out with the garbage during one of my parents moves. So, now I'm Just-A-Fan like you, and not even as BIG a fan as you, since I don't spend most of my disposable income flying to NHRA races around the country to sit and watch the dwindling crop of bought-in drivers for multi-million dollar team owners. And that is NOT a slam against John Force, or Don Schumacher, or Connie Kallitta, etc. I appreciate them doing what they are doing for the most part. I'm not a doom-and-gloom person either, but if you can't see how NHRA might be in trouble when the BIGGEST current star of NHRA Drag Racing, John Force, is losing FORD and CASTROL at the same time in 2014, I think it is YOU that has your head stuck in the sand. And YES I know that the current reality for ALL motorsports and sponsorship is getting tougher every year, and I wish it wasn't so. I too love the sport of Drag Racing passionately, but it hurts to watch it go down the tubes incrementally every year. NHRA needs to "think outside the box", and not like what IHRA did, but get some passionate CAR people in key positions that also have great vision and leadership skills. More Bean Counters and Suits ain't gonna cut it. Not now and not ever. :mad:

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Re: JFR is a sign of what is coming

Joe, I like you, but your slamming attitude towards older fans of drag racing is just as lame (bad) as us geezers who DID attend drag racing in the 60's, 70's and 80's. I'm part of THAT group and if I'm not mistaken, you ARE a geezer too, at least by AGE. Why you didn't start attending drag races until you were approx 30 yrs old makes YOU the odd man out in this argument. Some of us GREW UP with drag racing unlike YOU. I was attending drag racing events at Beeline Dragway (AHRA Winternationals) years before I could drive a car. I used to pedal my Schwinn StingRay approx 10 miles one way just to see the funny cars I read about in Car Craft, Hot Rod, and especially Super Stock & Drag Illustrated heading to the track on their ramp trucks. I learned that the racers loved to stop for breakfast at a restaurant in Scottsdale Rd. & McDowell in Scottsdale and while the teams were inside fueling their stomachs, I along with my younger brother and another friend would be climbing on the ramp trucks and taking pictures of the cars that I had only seen in magazines. I wish I still had all those old pictures taken with a Kodak Instamatic camera (pitiful), but unlike Whit Bazemore, I didn't preserve that part of my history. My father finally relented one year and took my older brother and I to the AHRA Winternationals one time, and it was like NIRVANA. Unlike us kids, my father WAS a photographer and had a professional camera, a LEICA, with several lenses. He put himself through college as a photographer and never lost his love for it. He took the most amazing pictures of all the cars at Beeline that one year he took us, and those pictures would be worth some money right now, but in multiple moves they ended up getting trashed by my parents since they did not appreciate the value of them. I should have absconded with them when I was still living at home and kept them for safe keeping but didn't. The same thing happened to the model car collection that my brother and I built of 1960's Funny Cars that were stored and saved in boxes in our bedroom closets. Those model cars were one-off replicas of Dyno Don Nicholson's Eliminator II flip-top Mercury Comet and one of Gene Snow's early Rambunctious Funny Cars before corporate sponsorship by Revell. Also, there were a couple unnamed and unlettered Funny Cars that were just too beautiful to ruin the Candy Metallic paint jobs with sponsor decals and were not replicas of any car so they remained un-named. So, in a nutshell, I like others, grew up with the sport of Drag Racing, pre-NHRA only corporate racing, and I can speak from authority and fact since I lived it, that THOSE DAYS were awesome!! And, I even pursued Drag Racing as a hobby for several years. Have you? I lived and breathed drag racing up until about 1981 when I decided to go back to college and get my Bachelor's degree so I could hopefully make a decent income and afford an expensive hobby like drag racing. I never went back to doing it, even though I was successful at bracket racing my home-built 327ci 1965 Nova Super Sport. It was a strip-only car with a rear gear ratio in a Ford 9-inch that made it barely streetable. I couldn't afford a trailer or a decent tow vehicle so I flat-towed it to Beeline and SpeedWorld drag strips in the Phoenix area behind my daily driver. I even tasted victory at Beeline Dragway a couple times and once had the trophies to prove it, but those also went out with the garbage during one of my parents moves. So, now I'm Just-A-Fan like you, and not even as BIG a fan as you, since I don't spend most of my disposable income flying to NHRA races around the country to sit and watch the dwindling crop of bought-in drivers for multi-million dollar team owners. And that is NOT a slam against John Force, or Don Schumacher, or Connie Kallitta, etc. I appreciate them doing what they are doing for the most part. I'm not a doom-and-gloom person either, but if you can't see how NHRA might be in trouble when the BIGGEST current star of NHRA Drag Racing, John Force, is losing FORD and CASTROL at the same time in 2014, I think it is YOU that has your head stuck in the sand. And YES I know that the current reality for ALL motorsports and sponsorship is getting tougher every year, and I wish it wasn't so. I too love the sport of Drag Racing passionately, but it hurts to watch it go down the tubes incrementally every year. NHRA needs to "think outside the box", and not like what IHRA did, but get some passionate CAR people in key positions that also have great vision and leadership skills. More Bean Counters and Suits ain't gonna cut it. Not now and not ever. :mad:

I am a geezer. Top Fuel and Funny car have always been the quickest, fastest, and baddest cars ever made. Nostalgia cars, while nice to look at, racing are nothing more than the "Has Been Racing Association" or " Never Will Be Racing Association".
 
At indy I had the nicest little old lady who was decked out in all kinds of John Force gear, she sat down and asked me if I was a john force fan and I said no , as the day progressed she wanted to get me a john force seat cushion , and i said thanks but I was good to go , then while walking the nitro alley i stopped and looked at the Force mustang , and when i returned , she asked if I saw the car and i said yes i did it was a great car but it didn't have a diving board as an accecessory , and the crowd around us all cheered , but a fun day it was had by al untill the storms hit
Kevin, thanks for bringing her by our pit to say hi, she seemed like a very nice lady, but I almost chocked on that chicken leg that I was gnawing on when she told me what you had said. After talking with her for a while I knew there was no converting her over to our side.LOL One of these years I hope I can find the time to come up and hang out with you and your group. Also, thank's for taking Nick and I out to lunch in Chicago.
 
Re: JFR is a sign of what is coming

Joe, I like you, but your slamming attitude towards older fans of drag racing is just as lame (bad) as us geezers who DID attend drag racing in the 60's, 70's and 80's. I'm part of THAT group and if I'm not mistaken, you ARE a geezer too, at least by AGE. Why you didn't start attending drag races until you were approx 30 yrs old makes YOU the odd man out in this argument. Some of us GREW UP with drag racing unlike YOU. I was attending drag racing events at Beeline Dragway (AHRA Winternationals) years before I could drive a car. I used to pedal my Schwinn StingRay approx 10 miles one way just to see the funny cars I read about in Car Craft, Hot Rod, and especially Super Stock & Drag Illustrated heading to the track on their ramp trucks. I learned that the racers loved to stop for breakfast at a restaurant in Scottsdale Rd. & McDowell in Scottsdale and while the teams were inside fueling their stomachs, I along with my younger brother and another friend would be climbing on the ramp trucks and taking pictures of the cars that I had only seen in magazines. I wish I still had all those old pictures taken with a Kodak Instamatic camera (pitiful), but unlike Whit Bazemore, I didn't preserve that part of my history. My father finally relented one year and took my older brother and I to the AHRA Winternationals one time, and it was like NIRVANA. Unlike us kids, my father WAS a photographer and had a professional camera, a LEICA, with several lenses. He put himself through college as a photographer and never lost his love for it. He took the most amazing pictures of all the cars at Beeline that one year he took us, and those pictures would be worth some money right now, but in multiple moves they ended up getting trashed by my parents since they did not appreciate the value of them. I should have absconded with them when I was still living at home and kept them for safe keeping but didn't. The same thing happened to the model car collection that my brother and I built of 1960's Funny Cars that were stored and saved in boxes in our bedroom closets. Those model cars were one-off replicas of Dyno Don Nicholson's Eliminator II flip-top Mercury Comet and one of Gene Snow's early Rambunctious Funny Cars before corporate sponsorship by Revell. Also, there were a couple unnamed and unlettered Funny Cars that were just too beautiful to ruin the Candy Metallic paint jobs with sponsor decals and were not replicas of any car so they remained un-named. So, in a nutshell, I like others, grew up with the sport of Drag Racing, pre-NHRA only corporate racing, and I can speak from authority and fact since I lived it, that THOSE DAYS were awesome!! And, I even pursued Drag Racing as a hobby for several years. Have you? I lived and breathed drag racing up until about 1981 when I decided to go back to college and get my Bachelor's degree so I could hopefully make a decent income and afford an expensive hobby like drag racing. I never went back to doing it, even though I was successful at bracket racing my home-built 327ci 1965 Nova Super Sport. It was a strip-only car with a rear gear ratio in a Ford 9-inch that made it barely streetable. I couldn't afford a trailer or a decent tow vehicle so I flat-towed it to Beeline and SpeedWorld drag strips in the Phoenix area behind my daily driver. I even tasted victory at Beeline Dragway a couple times and once had the trophies to prove it, but those also went out with the garbage during one of my parents moves. So, now I'm Just-A-Fan like you, and not even as BIG a fan as you, since I don't spend most of my disposable income flying to NHRA races around the country to sit and watch the dwindling crop of bought-in drivers for multi-million dollar team owners. And that is NOT a slam against John Force, or Don Schumacher, or Connie Kallitta, etc. I appreciate them doing what they are doing for the most part. I'm not a doom-and-gloom person either, but if you can't see how NHRA might be in trouble when the BIGGEST current star of NHRA Drag Racing, John Force, is losing FORD and CASTROL at the same time in 2014, I think it is YOU that has your head stuck in the sand. And YES I know that the current reality for ALL motorsports and sponsorship is getting tougher every year, and I wish it wasn't so. I too love the sport of Drag Racing passionately, but it hurts to watch it go down the tubes incrementally every year. NHRA needs to "think outside the box", and not like what IHRA did, but get some passionate CAR people in key positions that also have great vision and leadership skills. More Bean Counters and Suits ain't gonna cut it. Not now and not ever. :mad:

Sorry Kurt, but hearing complaint after complaint about what Drag racing was 40 years ago is SOO Freakin Tired! Who is forcing anybody here to go to the track? Some of you act like you are held prisoner by NHRA, forcing you to go to races you find SOO inferior! I never heard you go on such rants in the past, but maybe you have joined that chorus, I don't know...
 
Kevin, thanks for bringing her by our pit to say hi, she seemed like a very nice lady, but I almost chocked on that chicken leg that I was gnawing on when she told me what you had said. After talking with her for a while I knew there was no converting her over to our side.LOL One of these years I hope I can find the time to come up and hang out with you and your group. Also, thank's for taking Nick and I out to lunch in Chicago.

Eugene, Nice try but I'm still not buying it.:D
 
Re: JFR is a sign of what is coming

Sorry Kurt, but hearing complaint after complaint about what Drag racing was 40 years ago is SOO Freakin Tired! Who is forcing anybody here to go to the track? Some of you act like you are held prisoner by NHRA, forcing you to go to races you find SOO inferior! I never heard you go on such rants in the past, but maybe you have joined that chorus, I don't know...

Joe, nobody is forcing anyone to go or not go. Your failing to read and understand what is being written. All we are saying is that the business model for both NHRA national events and the pro classes must change and evolve or the pro portion and the current national event structure will fail. I don't really think any of us want that anymore than you do.

We will always have races at the local tracks so drag racing will survive in some form but NHRA, pro racers and "super track" operators are driving the price beyond the realm of the average fan and sportsman racer. I know you will not agree but you need to look around and see what's happening. Car counts are down over the last few years as well as fan counts. If that's not warning signs then I guess I'm wrong. As a matter of fact I HOPE I'm wrong...but I doubt it.
 
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