Illegal alien march...sponsored by Miller Beer! (1 Viewer)

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/busin...53.story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

Why this immigrant rights march is brought to you by Miller

Marchers had to duck into fast-food restaurants for water when they first took to Chicago's streets in support of illegal immigrants five months ago. At the next two marches, family-owned grocery stores offered free bottled water from trucks emblazoned with their names.

This time, as demonstrators march from Chinatown to House Speaker Dennis Hastert's (R-Ill.) Batavia office this weekend, they will have Miller Brewing Co., as a sponsor. The brewer has paid more than $30,000 for a planning convention, materials and newspaper ads publicizing the event.

The support of a major corporation for a controversial political cause shows how fierce the competition has become to woo the growing market of Latino consumers.

For Miller, the march offered a special chance to catch up. This spring the brewer drew the ire of pro-immigrant forces over contributions to U.S. Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.), who sponsored legislation that would crack down on illegal immigrants. That prompted a short-lived boycott by some Latino groups.

Now, march advertisements feature not just the organizing committee's trademark blue globe but Miller's logo and a Spanish translation of its "Live Responsibly" slogan, a company effort to build goodwill among Latinos.

But this march is no Cinco de Mayo parade. The politically charged event will promote a controversial plan to end deportations and offer legal status for all 11 million to 12 million undocumented immigrants. That creates potential pitfalls for any businesses lending support, experts say.

At the same time business sponsorships have forced activists to confront whispers that they are commercializing their movement when they accept much-needed donations.

"We would love to have 20 corporate logos. It doesn't mean we are selling the movement out," said Jorge Mujica, a member of the March 10 Committee. "The principles and demands remain the same. They are helping out this movement and we are happy with that."

Labor unions remain the movement's backbone with four major unions bringing at least 600 marchers on buses from throughout Chicago. Religious groups have been key too. Some marchers will bed down in churches and a mosque.

But businesses have become vital to this weekend's Immigrant Workers Justice Walk, which will cover 45 miles to Hastert's district office. Hundreds of marchers plan to cover the entire span from Friday through Monday, and organizers need food and water for them.

Sometimes political and commercial messages are mingled.

At a July march, Chicago-based food producer V&V Supremo printed signs with its logo that urged "Moratorium Now, Legalization Yes."

Jimenez Market, an area chain, had its sign on display as workers passed out more than 5,000 bottles of water and other supplies worth nearly $17,000. Co-owner Jose Perez acknowledged it is good publicity but stressed that "we are supporting our people. Without them, our business would go downhill."

This weekend, the Los Comales restaurant plans to donate 500 tortas, Mexican sandwiches filled with steak, ham and other toppings. The Laredo Bakery is donating bread while other restaurants are donating water, fruit and other supplies, organizers said.

Those businesses are natural allies--"part of the same brotherhood," as one marketer put it.

But the presence of Miller at a welcoming reception the day before the Aug. 12-13 planning convention raised eyebrows.

The convention brought together labor unions, anti-war groups, immigrant service organizations and even socialist political candidates.

Hours before bashing NAFTA and U.S. foreign policy, participants at the Aug. 11 reception mingled with the Miller Girls, the company's public relations ambassadors, amid a display of Miller logos.

That Miller was involved in the first place is one measure of the growing power of immigrants. After the boycott announcement, the company approached march organizers to try to find common ground, and agreed to back the march organizers' efforts.

Miller is also bankrolling informational ads in Voces Migrantes, or Migrant Voices, a community newspaper in Chicago, and has promised scholarships for area Latinos.

Mathew Romero, the company's local market development manager, said Miller felt it was important to speak out against Sensenbrenner's legislation, though his campaign was one of many the company supported.

Romero noted that company founder Frederick Miller was a German immigrant and many current executives are foreign nationals. Miller is now part of London-based SABMiller.

Romero said he wasn't worried that some opponents of illegal immigration would be upset at the company's support of "the free movement of people, labor, goods and services."

"As long as you are stacking facts against facts, they are free to make their own decisions. We will stand by our positions," he said.

George San Jose, president of the San Jose Group, a Chicago-based marketing company specializing in the Hispanic market, said he understands why companies chase Hispanic purchasing power, which tops $700 billion annually in the U.S. Brewers, he said, have been especially aggressive.

But San Jose would advise clients that there are better ways.

"A company sponsoring one of the two sides of the immigration debate is no different than a company sponsoring groups for or against abortion [rights]. It's one of those heated political debates that companies should stay clear of," he said.

At the request of march organizers, media executive Robert Armband sent e-mails to thousands of business contacts, asking if they would consider helping the March 10 Committee.

"It certainly is an opportunity to reach the masses, but it might not be the right vehicle to come out as a sponsor," said Armband, publisher and chief executive of La Raza, a Chicago newspaper.

March organizers say they have not made any full-fledged sales pitches to major corporations and are having internal discussions about whether they should make a real push. That can be a tough decision, according to march organizer Gabe Gonzalez.

Gonzalez said he represents those in the movement--maybe half the total, he thinks -- who don't even consider themselves capitalists. Many have been involved with labor campaigns targeting specific companies.

March organizers shot down a suggestion that they approach Coca-Cola, for example, because of what they perceive as the company's labor abuses in the developing world, a cause celebre among liberal activists.

Although immigrant activists see legalization as an issue of social justice, Gonzalez said corporations might back the idea as a way to protect their bottom line. Whatever the motivations, Gonzalez said he would cooperate with almost any company willing to back the cause.

"That's the nature of politics. You form coalitions based on mutual self-interest," Gonzalez said. "So will we work with corporations? We will work with anyone who will work with us."
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from MichelleMalkin.com:

Here's a list of products to avoid:

Miller Lite
Miller Genuine Draft
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Miller High Life
Miller High Life Light
Sharp's non-alcohol brew
Red Dog
Icehouse 5.0
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Icehouse Light
Southpaw Light
Leinenkugel's Original
Leinenkugel's Light
Leinenkugel's Red Lager
Leinenkugel's Honey Weiss
Leinenkugel's Apple Spice (seasonal)
Leinenkugel's Berry Weiss
Leinenkugel's Oktoberfest (seasonal)
Leinenkugel's Creamy Dark
Leinenkugel's Big Butt Doppelbock (seasonal)
Leinenkugel's Sunset Wheat
Henry Weinhard's Private Reserve
Henry Weinhard's Blue Boar Pale Ale
Henry Weinhard's Classic Dark
Henry Weinhard's Northwest Trail Blonde Lager
Henry Weinhard's Hefeweizen
Henry Weinhard's Summer Wheat

Hamm's
Hamm's Draft
Hamm's Special Light
Olde English 800 Malt Liquor
Olde English HG800
Olde English HG800 7.5
Magnum Malt Liquor
Mickey's Malt Liquor
Mickey's Ice
Milwaukee's Best
Milwaukee's Best Light
Milwaukee's Best Ice
Foster's Lager
Foster's Special Bitter
Peroni Nastro Azzurro
Pilsner Urquell
Sheaf Stout
Sparks
Sparks Light
Sparks Plus 7%
Sparks Plus 6%
Steel Reserve Triple Export 8.1%
Steel Reserve High Gravity
Steel Reserve High Gravity 6.0
Steel Six
 
I'll have to dig up the details, but I heard Glen Beck saying that there's some "illegal friendly" city that declared themselves a safe haven for illegals sometime in the past. Said they had a gathering in which the illegals actually took the US flag down from the post office, put the Mexican flag in it's place, then proceeded to STOMP ON THE US FLAG as police officers stood by and watched. He was talking about the fact that the general media didn't even report on this.

Do you think you could get away with doing this same thing in any other country in the world, especially if you entered their country illegally in the first place?
 
It is not enough to not purchase the items, you have to write/phone/email the companies and TELL them why you are no longer buying their products, to be effective. It takes a little effort, but if you are serious, you'll take/make the time.
 
Wow..just wow!! Sponsoring an illegal act..this is going to help with sales this weekend, eh?
 
I quit buying Miller when they were sold to South African Breweries. My reason was simple: when possible, I prefer to spend my money on American owned products. I had even less reason to purchase Miller products when they made their decision earlier this year to end their sponsorship of Snake's T/F team. However, I am far less concerned about Miller's sponsorship of this immigrant march. While the current immigration problem certainly needs to be addressed, I tend to believe that so-called "illegals" have become convenient scapegoats for our failed economic and trade policies. And while I neither condone nor support illegal immigration, I also have no desire to despise those who's primary motivation for coming here is to find work in order to escape the poverty and hopelessness found in their own country.
 
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While Miller cannot control the actions at an event, they are certainly making it clear that they are supportive of people who have entered our country without going through proper channels. I have a problem with this. I have taken the time to send Miller a letter expressing my dissapointment that they are supporting illegal immigration into our country. I also commented that as a major manufacturer concerned with upholding responsible drinking, they should take a clue from their own legal department and encourage LEGAL immigration into the USA instead of supporting people who are breaking our laws simply by being here.

What I did not point out is that I could have promoted their product and increased sales all over the east coast for what they spent to obtain this questionable press coverage. if they respond perhaps I will mention that to them.
 
At what point do we have to arrive at before we realize illegals being a drain on systems while paying no income tax could take our country down from the inside?
 
If an undocumented worker is working at a legitimate job then he/she is indeed paying income taxes. That is because taxes are deducted from paychecks. What's more, they are also paying the FICA tax even though they are not eligible to collect the Social Security benefits. While it's undoubtedly true that some undocumented workers avoid taxes by being paid under the table, it should be remembered that the employers who are paying them are just as guilty in that they too are tax cheats.

The truth is, undocumented workers pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits.
 
I also have no desire to despise those who's primary motivation for coming here is to find work in order to escape the poverty and hopelessness found in their own country.

So, even if they're breaking our laws by comimg here, and my tax dollars go to them, you have no problem......Rich,,,YOU'RE the problem then
 
s who are paying them are just as guilty in that they too are tax cheats.

The truth is, undocumented workers pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits.

Therefore then,.,,,,why don't you provide some of that "truth" that shows they recieve very little beneift..

That's a pretty "knowing" statement without providing any documentation to support you're statement.
 
Given the fact that I only responded to an unproven claim that "illegals" are a "drain on systems while paying no income tax" the burden of proof does not lie with me. However, since we all know that by law undocumented workers are ineligible for government benefits, and that taxes are withheld from their paychecks just as they are for US citizens, I would say that I have already provided more evidence in my claim than did the person who made the original assertion to which I responded. Perhaps I should likewise ask you to provide documentation for the claim that your tax dollars are going to "illegal aliens."

I also made it clear in my original post that I "neither condone nor support illegal immigration." But if I am to be considered a part of the problem due simply to my refusal to join the nativists among us in some sort of xenophobic crusade, then so be it.
 
If an undocumented worker is working at a legitimate job then he/she is indeed paying income taxes. That is because taxes are deducted from paychecks. What's more, they are also paying the FICA tax even though they are not eligible to collect the Social Security benefits. While it's undoubtedly true that some undocumented workers avoid taxes by being paid under the table, it should be remembered that the employers who are paying them are just as guilty in that they too are tax cheats.

The truth is, undocumented workers pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits.

"Undocumented workers..." Hmmmmm. That seems to be a nice way of referring to "under the table" employment.

I'm a regular guy, and if the kid next door who mows my laws doesn't report his lawn money then so be it. The barter system is also alive and well with accountants trading time with lawyers and so on all through our system. That isn't what bothers me.

The problem is that some people illegally enter our country. As such they should be deported back to where they came from and asked to enter through the proper channels.

Some workers may well pay in more than they receive. So what? They are not here legally. Think of that as a small burden on them for the priviledge of being criminals in our country. This isn't 14 houses on the southern border... We are talking about millions of people.

People who live here without a ticket, work for low wages, many of whome assist additional people to be here illegally, some of whome bring drugs and other contraband into our country, people who are not drafted into our armed services, people who often have no insurance for their vehicles, people who sometimes take jobs over a legal worker...

I am not saying these are "bad" people in terms of being human beings, but I am saying than entering our country illegally does not entitle them to anything except a taxpayer paid deportment back to their country of origin.

Any participation by Miller in encouraging this type of behavior is simply wrong on the most basic level.
 
Ted, the kid next door probably doesnt over load our school system with kids that hold up everyone kid from learning because they dont speak english and we have to cater to them or flood our hospital emergency rooms to get free medical services that I have to pay for.
 
Ted, the kid next door probably doesnt over load our school system with kids that hold up everyone kid from learning because they dont speak english and we have to cater to them or flood our hospital emergency rooms to get free medical services that I have to pay for.

Or have a baby in the US which makes the child a citizen and a vehicle for bringing more illegals into the country because no one wants to separate a child from their mother.

Get back to basics. People who are trying to escape stuff in their own country should have enough respect for the United States, and it's laws, and it's tax payers, to come here LEGALLY if they wish to enjoy the benefits of being an American. And, part of that is assimilating into the American Culture.
 
Or have a baby in the US which makes the child a citizen and a vehicle for bringing more illegals into the country because no one wants to separate a child from their mother.

Get back to basics. People who are trying to escape stuff in their own country should have enough respect for the United States, and it's laws, and it's tax payers, to come here LEGALLY if they wish to enjoy the benefits of being an American. And, part of that is assimilating into the American Culture.


Jackee, the situation that I see here is one , that they DONT wish to become American Citizens, they just want the Milk without any responsibility for the Cow!
 
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