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Hmmmmmmmmm
- Thread starter Jimbo
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Jimbo
Nitro Member
Alan,
My fear is that this is the start down a slippery slope. If four wide is the direction NHRA wants to go how long before 3, 4 or more events are 4 wide... That being the case it WILL mean less POSSIBLE exposure for sponsors. Less exposure means less sponsors. Less sponsor mean less cars... It is simple really...
Since I don't live in Charlotte I didn't know about that offer. What I do know is kids paid full price at Pomona based on what the family of 4 behind me said they paid to get in the door. Is this a new NHRA policy? Will Kids under 13 be free at the next Pomona Event? If so Great, it a good start in the right direction. Also were those kid and family in Charlotte allowed to bring in their own food and water or was it like the other Smith Track in Vegas where you were not allowed to bring anything in as reported. Getting a kid in for free and then having to pay $30 to $40 for food and drink is not a solution.
Here is an Idea:
Instead of attacking my ideas with all your added DRAMA ("Mother nature causes more missed runs than that. We should sue her!"), please feel free to share your experience and opinions on how to fix this mess and be part of the solution as opposed to being part of the problem. If not, no problem, but may I suggest you consider a change of writing outlets to trashy novels etc, you seem to have the drama covered...
Gordon
Nitro Member
Two cylinder nitro cars? Solves everything - Speed, cost, inventory... which may lead us back to thirty TWO car fields and we could get back to 1,320' racing, or maybe even get to TWO thousand feet?
*Note: Sarcasm intended. Been away a while and wanted to have a little fun.
willy
Nitro Member
Condescending;
adjective
showing or implying a usually patronizing descent from dignity or superiority.
Bingo.
Wayne
Nitro Member
Post of the Year nominee!!!
Adam
Nitro Member
Do you really think that the sponsors were all surprised when they saw the 4 wide? Like "OMG what the hell is this!!!". I would think that they all are very aware of the ONE event that is 4 wide. I don't think that 4 wide is the direction NHRA wants to go unless of course they plan on having all the events at ZMax. They could possibly have it at other tracks and just use the return roads as lanes because that chain link fence between the cars and spectators would suffice. And I'm sure all the tracks would be on board for spending the millions it would take to add 2 more lanes for their one national event per year.
There are problems with the sport that need to be addressed but this one event is one of the least. I was there on Saturday, we stopped on the way home from Hilton Head, and there was a pretty good crowd. It was neat for the first few runs but I personally didn't care for it (but glad i got to see it) but i don't have a huge issue with it either for one event.
XPilot
Nitro Member
Aircraft have gone to two engines because of economics and technology. Economics dictates that two engines are cheaper than 4. Same reason the flight engineer is going the way of the dinosaur.
Engine technology has produced higher reliability, more time on the wing, and considerably more time between failures. The reliability is opening up more of the world to twin engine aircraft (330 minute ETOPS).
On the other subject.... If every event were 4 wide, I wouldn't be a fan. Given that we only see it in one place, I think it's pretty cool. Now I just need to get there in person.
Jimbo
Nitro Member
I was informed by a close friend yesterday that nitromater.com/NHRA is not an objective forum where one can discuss the problems with the current NHRA model and is nothing more than a cheerleaders for the NHRA and HD Partners the real owners of the NHRA POWERade Drag Racing series.
He also stated that the NHRA is simply a business designed to line the pockets of those in the business and has deviated from it's original scope of promoting Drag Racing and Safety. (Makes me wonder about the Non Profit Status?)
Here is a good read...
NHRA pro racing assets get a new owner
This gives a much better understanding to the hows and whys of where the NHRA is today. What a sad state of affairs.
Since I don't support the actions of NHRA the way some do on this board, I will keep my opinions to my self. Once the NHRA Knee Pads are on it seems to disconnect the logic reasoning areas of the brain and becomes a waist of time expecting unbiased opinions...
I hear the NHRA Marketing are looking at a new 4 wide knee pad for you lovers of the perversion of the sport...
Have a wonderful day...
He also stated that the NHRA is simply a business designed to line the pockets of those in the business and has deviated from it's original scope of promoting Drag Racing and Safety. (Makes me wonder about the Non Profit Status?)
Here is a good read...
NHRA pro racing assets get a new owner
This gives a much better understanding to the hows and whys of where the NHRA is today. What a sad state of affairs.
Since I don't support the actions of NHRA the way some do on this board, I will keep my opinions to my self. Once the NHRA Knee Pads are on it seems to disconnect the logic reasoning areas of the brain and becomes a waist of time expecting unbiased opinions...
I hear the NHRA Marketing are looking at a new 4 wide knee pad for you lovers of the perversion of the sport...
Have a wonderful day...
Really? Didn't her about that, was it a Nursery there? Kidding...
Alan I agree with just about everything you said in this thread! Still doesn't keep 4 wide from being IN MY OPINION terrible and not worth watching.
I was informed by a close friend yesterday that nitromater.com/NHRA is not an objective forum where one can discuss the problems with the current NHRA model and is nothing more than a cheerleaders for the NHRA and HD Partners the real owners of the NHRA POWERade Drag Racing series.
He also stated that the NHRA is simply a business designed to line the pockets of those in the business and has deviated from it's original scope of promoting Drag Racing and Safety. (Makes me wonder about the Non Profit Status?)
Here is a good read...
NHRA pro racing assets get a new owner
This gives a much better understanding to the hows and whys of where the NHRA is today. What a sad state of affairs.
Since I don't support the actions of NHRA the way some do on this board, I will keep my opinions to my self. Once the NHRA Knee Pads are on it seems to disconnect the logic reasoning areas of the brain and becomes a waist of time expecting unbiased opinions...
I hear the NHRA Marketing are looking at a new 4 wide knee pad for you lovers of the perversion of the sport...
Have a wonderful day...
Wow, this post you made just shows how clueless you are. First off, Powerade hasn't sponsored the Pro series for a couple of years now. Second, the HD partner deal fell through so they never did acquire the Pro series. Looks like you wore holes through your hating NHRA knee pads with the misinformation you just posted. Thanks for posting this and showing your true intelligence. Do some research before spewing crap out of your mouth.
Rajunz
Nitro Member
The greek's crew was hurrying because their car did not fire up on the first try, nor the second. It would have been the exact same thing if there had been only one other car on the track.
This has got to be the most rediculous analogy that I've ever read, and then you further it by trying to argue the point. Twin engines on an aircraft are redundant systems. Two cars on the track (or 4 for that matter) are all independant of each other. They have nothing to do with one another, and have zero effect on each other.
And to validate your point, obviously one car on the track racing against a clock like Bonneville would be the safest, but who wants to pay to see that?
none
Nitro Member
Jim,
Nitromater is nothing more than cheerleaders for the NHRA? That is the new funniest thing I have ever read!
The date on that article is almost 5 years ago. And as was stated it didn't happen. So if you're basing any of your logic on that then you are way out of touch.
I'm not attacking your ideas with drama, I'm refuting them with logic. The four wide was the most watched NHRA show in the last couple of years according to the ratings. Cold hard fact. That is more sponsor exposure, not less. And you can't dispute that can you?
You stated that the four wide was the cause of two specific problems. Hagan's and the Greek's. Hagan's crew chief said that was not the case. The Greek's crew chief said the same thing. But you have already made up your mind and the last thing you seem to want is facts from the people that were directly involved.
You said they should have a jr rate for kids, I informed you that they were letting them in free, and your response was they still need to do more!
Also I have simply been discussing the points you are bringing up and have not made any personal comments toward you. You seem to have run out of meaningful responses to me so now you are making personal comments toward me.
I don't think four wide is the wave of the future. Nor do I think it is the end of Drag Racing as we know it. But it is an interesting event once a year. You have formed very strong opinions about it without experiencing it first hand. Maybe before you decide to hate it, you should see it with your own eyes.
And Joe,
They did have a play area for the kids, ZMax is a VERY family friendly place.
Alan
Nitromater is nothing more than cheerleaders for the NHRA? That is the new funniest thing I have ever read!
The date on that article is almost 5 years ago. And as was stated it didn't happen. So if you're basing any of your logic on that then you are way out of touch.
I'm not attacking your ideas with drama, I'm refuting them with logic. The four wide was the most watched NHRA show in the last couple of years according to the ratings. Cold hard fact. That is more sponsor exposure, not less. And you can't dispute that can you?
You stated that the four wide was the cause of two specific problems. Hagan's and the Greek's. Hagan's crew chief said that was not the case. The Greek's crew chief said the same thing. But you have already made up your mind and the last thing you seem to want is facts from the people that were directly involved.
You said they should have a jr rate for kids, I informed you that they were letting them in free, and your response was they still need to do more!
Also I have simply been discussing the points you are bringing up and have not made any personal comments toward you. You seem to have run out of meaningful responses to me so now you are making personal comments toward me.
I don't think four wide is the wave of the future. Nor do I think it is the end of Drag Racing as we know it. But it is an interesting event once a year. You have formed very strong opinions about it without experiencing it first hand. Maybe before you decide to hate it, you should see it with your own eyes.
And Joe,
They did have a play area for the kids, ZMax is a VERY family friendly place.
Alan
MM
Nitro Member
I wanted to go play in it, but the boss wouldn't let me!
Jim, you are WAY overthinking this. Seems like most agree that the 4-wide deal is a spectacle in person, maybe not so much on TV. But, at least Bruton is trying something new, and he's not afraid to invest in his ideas. Like others have said, 4-wide isn't the future of drag racing, nor the end of it. Once a year, it's probably a cool deal to create a buzz. I've seen several photos of 4 lane drags from the 60s & 70s, I wonder if anyone thought it would kill the sport back then?
Yep, my kid took full advantage of it last weekend. I expect both my kids to take full advantage of it in September, when my youngest comes with me and my oldest to his very first drag race. I'm about as excited as he is!
Wayne
Nitro Member
