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DSR canopy.....

My name is Doceye and I'm running for senior dogcatcher on the Republican ticket. And I approve of this canopy. Thank you for your support.
 
Don said he would come on here first and tell all of us when the certificate came in the mail... :D
 
http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-racing/news/20599-dsr-canopy-still-under-review
There is no hard and fast time table on that (about making a decision about the fully-enclosed canopy),” Gray said. “We are going to take the time and do the analysis. We are trying to expedite that as quickly as possible, but when we are done we will be done. We are not going to rush through it.”

spoken like a true politician (i.e. gov't. official)
no urgency / no deadline / no monthly 'nut' to crack
PBIR was 2 months ago.
how many safety safari members have to look at it first?....isn't there a
head safety safari guy who mite be smart enough to evaluate the piece?
 
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You can bet your bottom dollar that they won't rush through the approval process, not after what happened last time with their approval.
 
http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-racing/news/20599-dsr-canopy-still-under-review


spoken like a true politician (i.e. gov't. official)
no urgency / no deadline / no monthly 'nut' to crack
PBIR was 2 months ago.
how many safety safari members have to look at it first?....isn't there a
head safety safari guy who mite be smart enough to evaluate the piece?

If you don't want this to turn into another PSM Harley debate, maybe you should give the NHRA time to get an aerodynamic engineer to test this (like it says in the article). That way there will be no complaining about unfair advantages.
 
If you don't want this to turn into another PSM Harley debate, maybe you should give the NHRA time to get an aerodynamic engineer to test this (like it says in the article). That way there will be no complaining about unfair advantages.

I think DSR unlike Harley- Davidson, is willing to share and make available the canopy so other teams can run it.
 
I think DSR unlike Harley- Davidson, is willing to share and make available the canopy so other teams can run it.

Never said they didn't make it available to everyone or were unwilling to do so...but if it gives the teams using it a performance advantage, isn't that penalizing the teams that can't afford to adopt it? It has to be fair for everyone....either its required because its unfair otherwise or its optional because nobody is getting an advantage.
 
Never said they didn't make it available to everyone or were unwilling to do so...but if it gives the teams using it a performance advantage, isn't that penalizing the teams that can't afford to adopt it? It has to be fair for everyone....either its required because its unfair otherwise or its optional because nobody is getting an advantage.

Remember when the top teams started running the setback blower? Alot of the little guys couldn't at first because of the cost. It meant buying new parts and being able to afford to test. Now everyone is running setbacks. There has to be some type of innovation within the classes or it will stagnate. Let's face it, racing at any level is expensive. Gone are the days when you could run a fuel car out of your garage.
 
What if NHRA mandated the cars running the canopy have a higher minimum weight.

For Example:
The min weight without the canopy is 2320.
The min weight with the canopy is 2345 (or whatever the additional added weight is running the canopy)

Or maybe not given the parity issues in PSM, PM, TAD, etc.........
 
If you don't want this to turn into another PSM Harley debate, maybe you should give the NHRA time to get an aerodynamic engineer to test this (like it says in the article). That way there will be no complaining about unfair advantages.

If it's available to anybody, what difference does it make?

The primary thing they should be looking at is safety; whether or not it would increase the possibility of injury in event of fire, and would it hinder getting a driver out of the cockpit in the event of a crash. Sounds like that's what Gray is saying, although you'd think the process could be sped up a bit.
 
an excerpt from the vandergriff article on complus......do these sentiments
apply here?
"That's the constant battle I fight with them every day out here is that they don't make it any easier on us. It seems like everything we're trying to do or trying to accomplish they make it harder on us. And that eventually doesn't work," Vandergriff said. "I would think that some of the decisions are made . . . How do I put this? . . .Some of the decisions that are made, I feel, are made from the easy-way-out standpoint instead of having to do a little bit of work to make it better. There's a lot of things that we do -- a lot of the decisions that are made -- are just done from the easy way out: 'I don't have to mess with that, then we don't have to do it" or 'I don't have time to police that.' or 'I don't have time to be doing all that.' For me, that's never the right answer."
 
If it's available to anybody, what difference does it make?

The primary thing they should be looking at is safety; whether or not it would increase the possibility of injury in event of fire, and would it hinder getting a driver out of the cockpit in the event of a crash. Sounds like that's what Gray is saying, although you'd think the process could be sped up a bit.
That's what I have been saying ... Would Don Schumacher or any other owner be forgiving if NHRA just "approved" this and (god forbid) his son or any driver has an incident where the canopy impedes their exit or extraction from the vehicle and actually causes further injury. If one injury results because of this device, IMO any benefit is completely negated. This can't be based completely on innovation, these are people's lives we are talking about.

This is not a simple flip open lexan shield like Garlits had, so that comparison doesn't wash with me. If it is being heralded as a safety advancement, should there be no doubt it will be just that ... and not the opposite? No guessing, no assumptions, DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME !!
 
One would think that the canopy would have some sort of emergency pop-off latch at the hinge that would let someone take the canopy off if a situation is encountered where it can't be opened normally....
 
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