Dhl shutting down us operations

[Greg]

DHL are having a huge new factory built in Melbourne Australia next to Melbourne International Airport. Make's you wonder whats going on sometimes.

Cheers Greg

 

[clwill]

DHL are having a huge new factory built in Melbourne Australia next to Melbourne International Airport. Make's you wonder whats going on sometimes.

DHL is doing quite well in Europe, and in other parts of the world. They are certainly very competitive in international express shipping, from all I understand. It's just the US where they got their tails handed to them by the far bigger and more entrenched UPS and FedEx.

And they are not leaving the US entirely, they still intend to compete on international business -- it's the intra-US business they are leaving. Sure does suck for Wilmington, though. Heard it will mean the layoff of 50% of the adult employment in the area. Ouch...

 

[Jim]

With the end of residential and small package delivery, there doesn't seem to be a sound reason for DHL to continue the marketing effort.
The loss of 9500 jobs for any small town, of course, is devastating. HOWEVER, you can't expect a company to continue to bleed money on a project they spent BILLIONS trying to ramp up. I don't think ANYBODY would be in favor of adding DHL to the federal bailout and the continuing losses threaten the survival of the rest of the company worldwide.
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Prolly 5 years ago, there were no (or few) DHL jobs in Wilmington. Exel is still operating. There are some skills and infrastructure left behind, perhaps, someone will be able to make the best of a crappy situation.

Look, I have no problem with the Kalittas or any other racing team out there entertaining me fan/racer. What I have a problem with is DHL on the track!!! If they can't manage there own business here in the USA why in the HELL are they on a race car??? I won't support them at all. I can guarantee that a lot of other fans and racers won't support them either. I am not trying to be disrespectful I am just telling the plain truth!!! Job loss is going through the roof right now in the USA!!! Take away 10,000 jobs and see what kind of support you get!

 

[Suzie Q]

Look, I have no problem with the Kalittas or any other racing team out there entertaining me fan/racer. What I have a problem with is DHL on the track!!! If they can't manage there own business here in the USA why in the HELL are they on a race car??? I won't support them at all. I can guarantee that a lot of other fans and racers won't support them either. I am not trying to be disrespectful I am just telling the plain truth!!! Job loss is going through the roof right now in the USA!!! Take away 10,000 jobs and see what kind of support you get!

Kevin,

I believe the DHL sponsorship is from Connie's long time association with the company in the International market. I think it is more of a "business to business" kind of deal. I don't know the exact particulars on their deal. It is Connie's business, not mine. I realize you are upset with people losing their jobs, but that is not the race team's doing. I think the fans will continue to support the drivers. DHL tried to break into the American market, but we all know too well that huge businesses like Fed Ex and UPS can make that a bit difficult. That is just business.

 

[Nitrohaulic]

I had a nice, regular high value load of computers going to DHL in Waco that ended. Thought that went overseas. FedEx now has it going out of Fort Worth so they can handle it with their own planes and trucks.

 

[Four Kalitta]

Look, I have no problem with the Kalittas or any other racing team out there entertaining me fan/racer. What I have a problem with is DHL on the track!!! If they can't manage there own business here in the USA why in the HELL are they on a race car??? I won't support them at all. I can guarantee that a lot of other fans and racers won't support them either. I am not trying to be disrespectful I am just telling the plain truth!!! Job loss is going through the roof right now in the USA!!! Take away 10,000 jobs and see what kind of support you get!

The US side is DHL Express. The sponsorship is from DHL Worldwide, the foreign branch.

 

[George.]

Any company with worldwide presence would be wise to shut down any US run affiliations given the coming tax structure for large businesses. Their margins are so close as it is that there is no way to continue with the added taxation. Smart move for any multi-national.

That's because the obvious effect of the current tax structure has been working so well.....

 

[Nitrohaulic]

That's because the obvious effect of the current tax structure has been working so well.....

That criticism is correct. This country is going from fiscal liberalism to even more extreme fiscal liberalism. The last time taxes were cut, the economy DID boom a couple years later.

 

[George.]

That criticism is correct. This country is going from fiscal liberalism to even more extreme fiscal liberalism. The last time taxes were cut, the economy DID boom a couple years later.

Somehow, I think that when people are losing their homes, their jobs and their savings has more to do with the decline of American commerce, that does a complex "tax structure' that hasn't even been proposed as a bill yet...
Either way, this country now has an 8 trillion dollar debt under Republican leadership. And yes, I'm a Republican..
How does one expect to pay that down if we don't...umm...don't start paying it down?
Burying your head in the sand has been perfected by this current administration and the Republican dominated congress for the last 6 1/2 years. Just ask your neighbors who are packing their bags to move into the local YMCA.

The NHRA will fall on incredibly hard times in the near future, and it's main short term goal is to stay afloat... That won't be easy.
More Chapter 7's and 11's to come, I'm sure.

 

[T.J.]

With the end of residential and small package delivery, there doesn't seem to be a sound reason for DHL to continue the marketing effort.
The loss of 9500 jobs for any small town, of course, is devastating. HOWEVER, you can't expect a company to continue to bleed money on a project they spent BILLIONS trying to ramp up. I don't think ANYBODY would be in favor of adding DHL to the federal bailout and the continuing losses threaten the survival of the rest of the company worldwide.
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Prolly 5 years ago, there were no (or few) DHL jobs in Wilmington. Exel is still operating. There are some skills and infrastructure left behind, perhaps, someone will be able to make the best of a crappy situation.

Jim, DHL's hub in Wilmington has been around WAY longer than 5 years. Airborne Express was the company that has called Wilmington home since the 70's when DHL came in and bought them out. There are adults who have been at that hub for 20-30 years and thats all they know because thats all there is in that town. I dont think anyone could have imagined a company as large as DHL completely deserting Wilmington and all there other U.S. employees as they are doing.

 

[Nitrohaulic]

Somehow, I think that when people are losing their homes, their jobs and their savings has more to do with the decline of American commerce, that does a complex "tax structure' that hasn't even been proposed as a bill yet...
Either way, this country now has an 8 trillion dollar debt under Republican leadership. And yes, I'm a Republican..
How does one expect to pay that down if we don't...umm...don't start paying it down?
Burying your head in the sand has been perfected by this current administration and the Republican dominated congress for the last 6 1/2 years. Just ask your neighbors who are packing their bags to move into the local YMCA.

The NHRA will fall on incredibly hard times in the near future, and it's main short term goal is to stay afloat... That won't be easy.
More Chapter 7's and 11's to come, I'm sure.

It's what I've been screaming about for years. There are no fiscally conservative politicians and it's obvious that people don't want you even if you are one. It's "What can you do for me now that's easy" instead of "What can we do that's best for the long run?" I just happen to be a supply sider (as opposed to lack of supply? LOL). We produce less and less and now taxes are going up for the businesses that still produce. You can raise peoples' taxes as much as you want as long as you do it through their employers.

I know this is politics but, it's directly related to the sponsorship fallout that's happening now and that many people think is only going to become worse.

As American sponsorships fall, where has the biggest new sponsorship come from? Overseas where our money goes.

 

[Jim]

Jim, DHL's hub in Wilmington has been around WAY longer than 5 years. Airborne Express was the company that has called Wilmington home since the 70's when DHL came in and bought them out. There are adults who have been at that hub for 20-30 years .

I couldn't remember if Airborne was in Wilmington or Dayton - 9500 lost jobs? It ceratinly sucks!
As I recall, Airborne was a dinky little operation (as was DHL really) until the Germans put Big $$$s into it. While it was good while it lasted, you can't expect them to bleed to death if they have healthy operations to preserve and grow elsewhere.

 

[Jim]

There are no fiscally conservative politicians and it's obvious that people don't want you even if you are one. It's "What can you do for me now that's easy" instead of "What can we do that's best for the long run?" I just happen to be a supply sider (as opposed to lack of supply? LOL). We produce less and less and now taxes are going up .

Ron, you hit the nail on the head!
I can't remember an election more driven by the "Can you top this?" mentality. Each candidate trying to out-promise the other party.
I think Sarah Palin was the only person expressing, "Government should get-out-of-our way!."
Poor Reagan must be rolling over in his grave.

 

[George.]

It's what I've been screaming about for years. There are no fiscally conservative politicians and it's obvious that people don't want you even if you are one. It's "What can you do for me now that's easy" instead of "What can we do that's best for the long run?" I just happen to be a supply sider (as opposed to lack of supply? LOL). We produce less and less and now taxes are going up for the businesses that still produce. You can raise peoples' taxes as much as you want as long as you do it through their employers.

I know this is politics but, it's directly related to the sponsorship fallout that's happening now and that many people think is only going to become worse.

As American sponsorships fall, where has the biggest new sponsorship come from? Overseas where our money goes.

Well, they've made our bed over the last few years, and now we have to sleep in it.
Dems..Republicans... they're all the same. None of them have ever gotten their hands dirty because they've never "had" to, so how can they possibly relate?
I don't mind paying higher taxes, not because I want to, but because at some point, the bill comes due. This is what happens when you don't pay the bill, and when Wall street and the banking industry is trusted to do the right thing on their own without regulation.
Right now, I fear for the NHRA. I think the combination of 1000 foot racing, combined with a corporate recoiling of funds may cause the unimaginable to happen.

 

[scsp390]

Ok, people let's leave our political differences in our race trailers. The DHL/ABX lay off is being called the Biggest Lay Off in USA History! That is not a quote from me but from society. We are all missing the BIG Picture here!!!! I can't believe that NHRA is going to allow a sponsor like DHL on there race tracks. This is a HUGE HUGE situation. In my opinion it is going to be a trickle effect. If any of you think that there are a lot of PISSED OFF disgruntled/unemployed DHL/ABX workers in the world right now- imagine how they are going to react seeing one go by them at 300 plus MPHS!!!!!

 

[Bill]

One thing for sure, DHL wouldn't have an easy time of dumping 9500 employees in Germany.

 

[Jim]

Ok, people let's leave our political differences in our race trailers. The DHL/ABX lay off is being called the Biggest Lay Off in USA History! That is not a quote from me but from society. We are all missing the BIG Picture here!!!! I can't believe that NHRA is going to allow a sponsor like DHL on there race tracks. S!!!!!

Kevin - This is neither a political nor a Big Picture issue here.
In spite of recent government moves to nationalize finance, the automotive, healthcare and other industries, NHRA can run anyone /and DHL can advertise anywhere / they darned well please.
There's just not as much of a business reason for DHL to continue their marketing effort in view of their decision to abandon the US retail marketplace. If Connie wants to carry the signage, that's his business.

Criminy, this season we had Bahrain and Darfur on some cars - Next year we'll have AJ's middle east backed team - What's the problem?

PS: It's a lousy deal that people are losing their jobs but, the government seems to be the ONLY place folks are guaranteed job security and we can see what a great policy THAT is. I hope that never becomes the rule in private industry or we'll NEVER dig out of this hole.

 

[Big Dave]

DHL is doing quite well in Europe, and in other parts of the world. They are certainly very competitive in international express shipping, from all I understand. It's just the US where they got their tails handed to them by the far bigger and more entrenched UPS and FedEx.

And they are not leaving the US entirely, they still intend to compete on international business -- it's the intra-US business they are leaving. Sure does suck for Wilmington, though. Heard it will mean the layoff of 50% of the adult employment in the area. Ouch...

They are definitely on the roll here in Australia, A huge new complex opened up a few months ago just down the road from where I work in Brisbane. See a few B-Double semis and a fleet of delivery vans and smaller trucks goin past all the time. Just a sign of the times Stateside I think, with the current economic meltdown, just doesn't seem to have hit here as bad yet, although our exchange rate to the USD has gone from around 97c 4-5 mths ago to around 59c at present. Not good for racers over here who import parts.

 

[Nitrohaulic]

Well, they've made our bed over the last few years, and now we have to sleep in it.
Dems..Republicans... they're all the same. None of them have ever gotten their hands dirty because they've never "had" to, so how can they possibly relate?
I don't mind paying higher taxes, not because I want to, but because at some point, the bill comes due. This is what happens when you don't pay the bill, and when Wall street and the banking industry is trusted to do the right thing on their own without regulation.
Right now, I fear for the NHRA. I think the combination of 1000 foot racing, combined with a corporate recoiling of funds may cause the unimaginable to happen.

Progressive taxes are what Karl Marx said you'd want to keep wealth more evenly distributed and keep individuals from achieving. THAT'S what our tax code is patterned after!

On a recent youtube video some woman who's over Florida's healthcare system said that illegal healthcare cost that state alone last year over $100 million. One state and they're still walking in every day (something we already pay taxes to keep from happening), taking jobs and not paying income tax that the rest of us have to make up for.

I've predicted for years that the above two situations will take this country down financially from the inside.

Build an atom bomb. Put a man on the moon. Close one border? Can't do that!

 

[George.]

With all of that said, given the largest transfer of wealth from our shores to the middle east, it only seems poetic that AJ will be sponsored by a middle eastern.
Sad, sad, sad, sad, sad.......
It's his business, and probably a deal that he couldn't refuse in order to stay at the top, but for what price? Can he be proud of his place at any National event, in a truly American sport with Al Anibi on the side of his transporter and race car?
What's next?
There is just something sad about that. Not sad that a middle eastern can enjoy his wealth and his US "fought for" freedom at will, it is his right and I guess we should thank him, but rather that we as a nation can no longer generate enough corporate need and commerce for representation in our American sport..
I don't have an issue with AJ because after all, it's business, but this sends a clear signal that we as Americans have clearly lost our grip as the worlds economic power right here on our own soil, on our drag strips no less, and that's sad.
I don't want or need to see AJ's car next year..
Not because of his deal, but for what it represents to me as a motorhead and an American who grew up in the 60's and 70's, and knowing the roots of our sport....