Hutch
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lt's 14 years since something like this took place in Great Britain.
BBC News - Cumbria shooting rampage death toll reaches 12
BBC News - Cumbria shooting rampage death toll reaches 12
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Cumbria shooting rampage death toll reaches 12
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HEMI6point1
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Other than this tragedy, the UK still has some of the lowest gun death numbers in the world! Meanwhile the US is highest in gun deaths other than some war-torn nations.
Hutch
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Sam
Thanks for that, l couldn't have said it better.
l sent this email to all the British local & national TV media.
ITN reporting on the Cumbria shooting rampage has gone overboard. There are reporters/camera crews from Tyne Tees TV and the ITN National News reporters/camera crews flown up from London.
With the BBC and International News reporters/camera crews, Local Newspaper, National & International Newspaper reporters present, its a media circus. Its time to let the people traumatised by this horrific event come to terms with what has happened.
A Media Pool must be organised, use a limited number of news media for the purposes of news gathering.
G'ginna
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You may think these are minor points, but much of the UK is surrounded by water, a little easier to control those borders. Also, much of the UK is populated, easier to find people that break the law.
Hutch
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Georginna
The UK is an island country, it is all surrounded by water. All of the UK is populated.
The UK is slightly smaller than Oregon and 1/40th the size of the USA.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/
G'ginna
Nitro Member
I was trying to remember if there was any part of land considered UK that was not surrounded by water and wanted to err on the side of caution (instead of looking it up...) As the saying once went, "The sun never sets..."
Basically, you understood my point. It would be like comparing oranges and lychees.
One of our exchange students remarked that until he had come to the western US, he did not understand why we had to have such big cars. He said that until we took him touring or state (in a van) that he really had no idea that points could be so distant and that traveling in a little car as his family did from Germany to France every year would have been intolerable.
All I'm saying is that there really isn't comparison.
*Edit: I like the reference link.
Jenn
Nitro Member
If one of those witnesses had a firearm of their own, a well placed shot could have prevented a number of those numbers. You never know.
Hutch
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Jenn
Very few people carry guns in the UK.
In the UK the majority of police officers do not carry firearms, except in special circumstances. Most officers are instead issued with other items for personal defence, such as handcuffs, baton, and incapacitant sprays such as CS. Every force can also call upon the Force Firearms Unit's Armed Response Vehicle in a matter of minutes, and certain specialist units of the Police are routinely armed. Police Federation surveys have continued to show overwhelming police officer resistance to routine arming. In the Federation's most recent (2006) Officer/Arming survey, 82% of respondents were against the routine arming of police.
As of September 2004, all forces in England and Wales have access to tasers, but they may only be used by Authorised Firearms Officers and 'Specially Trained Units'. The Police Federation have since called for all officers to be issued with tasers,.
Outside of Northern Ireland, shootings of police officers are rare, between 1900 and 2006 67 officers were killed by firearms. In all forces, usage of other weapons such as semi-automatic carbines requires further training and authorisation. Semi-automatic carbines are stored in a locked armoury which is situated in the boot of an Armed Response Vehicle. Equipping of semi-automatic carbines rests on a judgment of the AFO.
Very few people carry guns in the UK.
In the UK the majority of police officers do not carry firearms, except in special circumstances. Most officers are instead issued with other items for personal defence, such as handcuffs, baton, and incapacitant sprays such as CS. Every force can also call upon the Force Firearms Unit's Armed Response Vehicle in a matter of minutes, and certain specialist units of the Police are routinely armed. Police Federation surveys have continued to show overwhelming police officer resistance to routine arming. In the Federation's most recent (2006) Officer/Arming survey, 82% of respondents were against the routine arming of police.
As of September 2004, all forces in England and Wales have access to tasers, but they may only be used by Authorised Firearms Officers and 'Specially Trained Units'. The Police Federation have since called for all officers to be issued with tasers,.
Outside of Northern Ireland, shootings of police officers are rare, between 1900 and 2006 67 officers were killed by firearms. In all forces, usage of other weapons such as semi-automatic carbines requires further training and authorisation. Semi-automatic carbines are stored in a locked armoury which is situated in the boot of an Armed Response Vehicle. Equipping of semi-automatic carbines rests on a judgment of the AFO.
