Cory McClenathan Leaving DSR Following Season End

[Gipraw]

Well said, Stan. Standing on your principles is very rarely, if ever, wrong.

 

[mick]

ownership......who does and who doesn't.
cory brought fram to don, so what......does anyone here really think fram
didn't realize they were going to be associated with the largest multi-car
entity in nhra drag racing?.....and their allegiance would be to DSR, not
cory mclenathan?

don't remember where fram went after the hartmans, but nevertheless they
were with cory's old team when they disbanded.

cory was without a ride.....who helped him? and fram?....oh yeah, don
schumacher set up cory and fram in turn-key fueler he did not have on track
at the time..........cory now back with ride and fram suddenly associated with
large multi-car team.......and a very competitive car at that.
DSR may have even hired former crew from cory's old team? can't remember.

and you folks piss and moan about fram!?.....they are one of few sponsors
i can remember putting money into keeping nitro cars on the track going
back quite a few years and am damn glad they will continue.

 

[Nick Name]

ownership......who does and who doesn't.
cory brought fram to don, so what......does anyone here really think fram
didn't realize they were going to be associated with the largest multi-car
entity in nhra drag racing?.....and their allegiance would be to DSR, not
cory mclenathan?

don't remember where fram went after the hartmans, but nevertheless they
were with cory's old team when they disbanded.

cory was without a ride.....who helped him? and fram?....oh yeah, don
schumacher set up cory and fram in turn-key fueler he did not have on track
at the time..........cory now back with ride and fram suddenly associated with
large multi-car team.......and a very competitive car at that.
DSR may have even hired former crew from cory's old team? can't remember.

and you folks piss and moan about fram!?.....they are one of few sponsors
i can remember putting money into keeping nitro cars on the track going
back quite a few years and am damn glad they will continue.

Good post.

 

[Doug]

I knew Cory back in his VW days. I remain a fan and would like to see him win a championship. If Fram put Cory out then so be it, but from what I understand many of the drivers also put in lots of time at the corporate facilities doing training or team building or whatever. Perhaps that entered into this equation somehow. I hope Cory gets a great ride next year and he gets that championship he's worked for. As far as Montreal goes it also could have been a round win anywhere in the year that would have won a championship as well - IIRC. I will buy the best products I can afford if that includes a sponsor on a car then I would probably buy that one.
Doug
See you in Pomona!!
(where Cory will earn another 2nd place finish!!)

 

[__]

The same Quaker State and Advance Auto Parts that used to sponsor the Pedregons? QS has scaled way back and Advance is out of the game altogether now, right?

We have no O'Reillys in New Jersey. Been going there until a different auto parts company that I can support sponsors somebody.

 

[clwill]

A short story with a moral. Several years back, I was manager for the local Coop feed mill. We had a great rep from Purina that came around...just checked in...didn't push hard for a sale but let you know he knew his product and could help you out. Neither here nor there but this fella had lost all of his one arm in a car wreck as a teenager and I always thought it took a pretty tough guy to gather himself up and make something of himself while maintaining a great sense of humor about his "situation." One day he stopped in to let me know Purina was pulling his commission and putting him on a really sucky base pay and he would probably be moving on to something else cause he had worked hard to get where he was with the company and couldn't live on what he would be making. A few weeks later, another guy stopped in and while nice enough in demeanor, I stopped him in midsentence and told him that I had dealt with Steve before and knew what Purina had done to him and I had decided that was the last business I would do with Purina. He tried to explain and I told him to save his breath, that I held no grudge agaist him but he would do well to take my message back to the powers that be and let them know there are still people with ethics in the world and they would do well to develope some. Same applies here folks. It may be the "modern" world but if know what is right and wrong, you'll send these guys down the road.

While I appreciate the story, and standing on principle, you have no idea about the back story. Could be Steve showed up late, went home early, and was terrible with his paperwork. Could be Steve was a terrible salesman, the worst in the area, and only dragging the business down. Could be the new guy tripled the sales even without you. You just don't know, but you kicked him to the curb for some false sense of "principle".

 

[Kansas Stan]

My mistake. I really should have taken the time to assume those things rather than rely on the things I had in front of me as facts. I only knew Steve for a little less than fourteen years....hardly enough time to know he was a good salesman. Thanks for setting things straight for me.

 

[clwill]

I'm sure they pushed him out because he was great.

 

[twostep]

No, they cut his pay because one of his superiors didn't appreciate a subordinate earning more than he/she was. Indians don't survive in the Corporate world when they are compensated better than the Chiefs. The guy wasn't fired - he was simply forced to work under intolerable conditions, in this case, a big cutback in salary.

At age 29, I quit working for Big Business, for that very reason, and vowed I'd never work for anyone again, as long as I was mentally and physically able to run my own show. 30+ years later, the show goes on.

 

[mick]

any good business model that involves commissioned salespeople should
have potential for the salesperson to earn more than his/her superior;
seen it happen........it is a good thing, you gladly pay a motivated seller
what they are worth, even if that means more than you, because at the end
of the month your sales are such that you can possibly take home a little
more too.

 

[Kansas Stan]

I wonder why you understood what I was saying, Carl? You hit the nail on the head. Cost cutting lead them to hand all of the salesmen (not just Steve...whoops, did we jump to conclusions?) the option of large pay reduction or hit the road. The corporate tower was NOT unhappy with Steve's work (how high can you jump?) only looking to brighten the bottom line at all salesmen's expense. I would have included all of this earlier but didn't want to make it any longer than it already was. Nevertheless, I will drop this subject now. We all know where we stand on the subject. I just hope the guys that pulled the rug out from under Cory get what they deserve next year.

 

[none]

While I appreciate the story, and standing on principle, you have no idea about the back story. Could be Steve showed up late, went home early, and was terrible with his paperwork. Could be Steve was a terrible salesman, the worst in the area, and only dragging the business down. Could be the new guy tripled the sales even without you. You just don't know, but you kicked him to the curb for some false sense of "principle".

False sense of principle..........
The world really is upside down to some people.

 

[waco flash]

I worked for DUPONT paint div for 12 yrs,every time they "reorganise" they get rid of high payed employees,or people they either don't like or have problems with.I lived about 90 miles from the area I serviced as a Dupont rep,and was asked many times about moving to that area,but I just rented a apartment at my own expence and stayed there mon-fri.did this for 12 years.New boss comes end,says I have to move or he would liquidate my position,I call human resourses and tell them what he said.I had a meeting with new boss later and was told it was all a misunderstanding.2 yrs later they have there next downsizing of the company and guess who was the first & only employee to be let go-you guessed it "ME" I loved working for Dupont and enjoyed my job,but the fact is Dupont layed off by position-not by yrs of service.big business will do what they want when they want to!I have moved on,but will never buy another dupont product-paint,carpet,agriculture products-nothing.

 

[mick]

.......Cost cutting lead them to hand all of the salesmen (not just Steve...whoops, did we jump to conclusions?) the option of large pay reduction or hit the road. The corporate tower was NOT unhappy with Steve's work (how high can you jump?) only looking to brighten the bottom line at all salesmen's expense..........

cutting salespeople's wages?.........let's see.....business 101,
how to make money.........first step, sell something.

the notion that a company cuts wages/compensation of sales people, much less good ones, is preposterous..........unless the business is corrupt at the topand beginning to fail.........purina, dupont.....i don't think so.

if 9 salespeople sell $20k/month consistently and 1 person sells 30k/mo
consistently; most likely the 30k employee is safe, the other 9 are not,
they are average, give me (the boss) one excuse to replace one of the nine
and i will take it, the next guy mite be another 30k/mo. seller

 

[twostep]

OK, let me just lay it out there, and please bear in mind, this is an opinion and not based on any substantiated facts, other than what's been posted by NHRA as to Cory Mac's impending exit. Besides, we're not certain exactly who his replacement will be, although it's rumored to be Spencer Massey, as everyone is obviously aware.

If - IF - it is indeed Massey, here's what I believe. First, Honeywell/Fram may have made the call, but that call was predicated on information/feedback from Don Schumacher. Why would Schumacher consider replacing Cory?

Let's assume for the moment that Don really does treat Cory well; considers him family, sees the heart of a Champion and all the other flowers he bestowed upon Cory in the press release. Personally, I'm not so sure, but it very well could be. There are people here who would say DS is exactly that way. But...he IS all business, as I believe everyone here would concur.

Enter Spencer Massey, along with his newfound friend/financier, who for obvious reasons can't just run out there and start his own team....and DSR gets offered a better deal financially - a MUCH better deal. In layman's terms, we're talking a million-plus to buy the seat in the Fram Top Fuel Dragster. Plus, DSR/Fram gets a 20-something driver instead of a 40-something, one who can chop down trees and is physically appealing and personable to boot.

DS gets to thinking - "well, Cory IS getting up there in age, he's indicated in the past that he may retire soon, even sooner should he win a Championship - he looks old in that grey beard - he DID lose 4 races this year on holeshots...." and before the sun sets, he's on the phone to the Honeywell brass calling a meeting. Rumors begin to surface, and the rest is what it is.

Think that's a conspiracy theory? Not on your life. That's how business works. I'm surprised there's any current NASCAR drivers over the age of 40. The young, up-and-coming kids are where the action is. Just because us old guys brought dates to the dance, doesn't mean they'll be going home with us. There's no loyalty any more; not in business, not on Capitol Hill, not even in many families.

I don't like what I (think) Don Schumacher did, but I understand it, in light of the corporate mindset. Just don't expect me to agree with it...ever.

 

[Muddy]

If - IF - it is indeed Massey, here's what I believe. First, Honeywell/Fram may have made the call, but that call was predicated on information/feedback from Don Schumacher. Why would Schumacher consider replacing Cory?

Enter Spencer Massey, along with his newfound friend/financier, who for obvious reasons can't just run out there and start his own team...DSR/Fram gets a 20-something driver instead of a 40-something, one who can chop down trees and is physically appealing and personable to boot.

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If it is Massey I would argue about him being "physically appealing and personable to boot". He's along way from being as personable or polished as Cory Mac and grey beard aside he's not any better appearing either. Not sure the public who buys those products is looking at the spokesperson unless it's a blond in a halter top with twin 44s. JMO

 

[twostep]

If it is Massey I would argue about him being "physically appealing and personable to boot". He's along way from being as personable or polished as Cory Mac and grey beard aside he's not any better appearing either.

I concur; I'm just trying to put myself in their shoes for a minute. You have a point. If Spencer appeals to women, who cares - women, for the most part, aren't the ones buying Fram filters. Easy, now, that's not a feminist comment. The demographics for Fram products is primarily male. And Cory isn't a wordsmith; he's simply a gentleman. And that counts for a lot.

 

[none]

I am not saying I agree with this decision at all but..........
All other things being equal, Spencer in that car and it would be going into the last race of the year with the points lead.

 

[HEMI6point1]

I am not saying I agree with this decision at all but..........
All other things being equal, Spencer in that car and it would be going into the last race of the year with the points lead.

Let's hope it doesn't smoke the tires in the 1st round.

j/k Spencer.

 

[Muddy]

I am not saying I agree with this decision at all but..........
All other things being equal, Spencer in that car and it would be going into the last race of the year with the points lead.

Well Carnack how did you arrive at this conclusion? Not agreeing or disagreeing just wondering how and what makes that true?