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Allen Johnson DQd for Alcohol

I'm curious...........

If that number is like someone said earlier (equivelant to one drink within two hours), just how many drinks would someone have to have 11-hours earlier to register that number? I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I would seriously like to know.

Sean D
 
I'm curious...........

If that number is like someone said earlier (equivelant to one drink within two hours), just how many drinks would someone have to have 11-hours earlier to register that number? I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I would seriously like to know.

Sean D



From what I was told how long alcohol stays in your system depends upon your weight, muscle mass, and how good, or bad your organs "process" things like alcohol. NHRA's drug and alcohol policy is zero tolerance. At least A.J was honest about it (they usually take 2 samples to confirm the results, those machines aren't perfect either).
 
To me the crazy thing about all of this (and the thing backing Allen up) is that he had 24 hours to take the test. He decided to get it out of the way and went first thing in the morning. If he had any concerns at all he would have waited until later in the day.
 
To me the crazy thing about all of this (and the thing backing Allen up) is that he had 24 hours to take the test. He decided to get it out of the way and went first thing in the morning. If he had any concerns at all he would have waited until later in the day.

Exactly. You don't run if you have something to hide. With media appearances or the fact that he does a lot of work on his own car (or if his dad is racing too) he probably didn't want to forget or wanted to get it out of the way.
 
Well...there goes my pick for the World Championship.... :mad:

Sad deal for AJ. But, he made his own bed, manned up and owned it. For that, I give him much respect.
 
Since it wasn't time to run yet. Would/should he have been given a second shot prior to qualifying to see if it had been out of his system?

Bummer for him but can't argue with the reasons for a zero tolerance policy
 
Since it wasn't time to run yet. Would/should he have been given a second shot prior to qualifying to see if it had been out of his system?

Bummer for him but can't argue with the reasons for a zero tolerance policy

Dunno if they test twice if you get a positive, when the guys have been randomly selected I think they only have to blow once (because the first blow is negative).
 
Exactly. You don't run if you have something to hide. With media appearances or the fact that he does a lot of work on his own car (or if his dad is racing too) he probably didn't want to forget or wanted to get it out of the way.

This is a tough deal.

Couple drinks night before. Up early, no breakfast, shows up early for the test----perfect storm. :eek:

Good guy - seems to be handling it well.
 
Sad deal for AJ. But, he made his own bed, manned up and owned it. For that, I give him much respect.

My thoughts exactly!!!
I have more respect for him now because of his handling of this than I did before!



Rich Venza:
"NHRA drag racing has become way too PC!
Just my 2 cents."

Sorry Rich but it's not being PC: it's a safety issue!!! I don't want any racer driving with ANY alcohol in their system!!!
Us truck drivers also have a zero tolerance too. My legal limit is .00000!!!
Yea it may suck but that's life!!!
 
NHRA drag racing has become way too PC!
Just my 2 cents.

I totally disagree.

I am a Mopar guy. I am a huge AJ fan. I wanted him to win the Championship.

However, alcohol is an epidemic. It is wreaking havoc on our society, about as bad as cancer is. The number of alcohol related deaths and destructions are astronomical. There's not much of anything else that would cause as much death and destruction, that we would tolerate as a Country. Especially something we have a choice about. Not everybody drinks to get drunk, or even catch a buzz, but most do.

I have no problem with zero tolerance. Sounds like AJ has no problem with it either. I respect him for owning up.
 
My thoughts exactly!!!
I have more respect for him now because of his handling of this than I did before!



Rich Venza:
"NHRA drag racing has become way too PC!
Just my 2 cents."

Sorry Rich but it's not being PC: it's a safety issue!!! I don't want any racer driving with ANY alcohol in their system!!!
Us truck drivers also have a zero tolerance too. My legal limit is .00000!!!
Yea it may suck but that's life!!!
Pop a Certs breath mint into your mouth and you will blow more than "your" legal limit by about what Allen blew. I know someone who used to conduct alcohol awareness classes for people convicted of DUI's. She and some other counselors decided to see what non-alcoholic things could trigger a positive Breathalyzer reading. A freaking Certs breath mint put her at .020!

A Breathalyzer test is not accurate enough to use in any zero tolerance circumstance.
 
My thoughts exactly!!!
I have more respect for him now because of his handling of this than I did before!



Rich Venza:
"NHRA drag racing has become way too PC!
Just my 2 cents."

Sorry Rich but it's not being PC: it's a safety issue!!! I don't want any racer driving with ANY alcohol in their system!!!
Us truck drivers also have a zero tolerance too. My legal limit is .00000!!!
Yea it may suck but that's life!!!

Personal view: I would Like to see NO Alcohol sold or served at the track to anyone with access to the pits. Also, anyone involved in the running of the event and making any judgment calls should also be subject to random testing.

and those that know me, know I like my Jim Beam

d'kid
 
If the tests were simply a safety deal, they would not be random and they would be given in the lanes prior to any run being made. As of now you can go take your test in the morning and be hammered by the time your first pass is to be made. How is that in the interest of safety?
 
I have a lot of respect for Allen & Roy...with that being said, I have seen a lot of pictures on certain social websites of racers partying at/after events and Allen was in a few of those pictures. I know of one nitro racer who while he was coming up, was told to cut back on his partying because he was getting a bit carried away with the booze.....

Racers are just like everyone else out there.....
 
Pop a Certs breath mint into your mouth and you will blow more than "your" legal limit by about what Allen blew. I know someone who used to conduct alcohol awareness classes for people convicted of DUI's. She and some other counselors decided to see what non-alcoholic things could trigger a positive Breathalyzer reading. A freaking Certs breath mint put her at .020!

A Breathalyzer test is not accurate enough to use in any zero tolerance circumstance.
Not to shift this to a political commentary but ... Bob, if its good enough for any law enforcement to put you behind bars (blood tests are not a required backup) ... its equally as good in this case. Same rules apply at alomost any company with a similar policy. Zero tolerance, 2 samples, 1 chance.

Unless you believe you have better insight than the entire legal and law enforcement arena. This should not become a liberal debate on the fairness of the test.

Fact: AJ admitted to having several drinks the night before. He made a conscious decision knowing full well his chances of being chosen on any given weekend were as good as the next guy.
Fact: AJ was randomly chosen to take the test. I have and I was scared ****less after having 3 beers the night before.
Fact: AJ failed the test and took full responsibility for his actions and has moved on to Dallas (hopefully).
 
Personal view: I would Like to see NO Alcohol sold or served at the track to anyone with access to the pits. Also, anyone involved in the running of the event and making any judgment calls should also be subject to random testing.

and those that know me, know I like my Jim Beam

d'kid
This already the case Karl. Any racer (Pro or Sportsman) or person being paid by the NHRA that given weekend is at risk for testing. Including the part time help (Full time NHRA staff, Announcers, Safari, Tech, Lanes, etc.).
 
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