$200,000 Billet Supercharger?

[handsome]

Chuck Ford and Troy Critchley are the ones producing some billets in high demand!. .I have been helping tune a pro mod with one and all I can say id DAMN!. . it's an awesome piece and the output of the blower is incredible. . .from what I was told, there is a long waiting list.. . I remember buying a brand new littlefield in 2000 and paid $4200.00 for it. . how times have changed.

 

[The Counterfeiter]

Perhaps a little off track, but I'd like to know which (if any) fuel teams are producing their own blowers. JFR has had a large CNC department for several years and we saw DSR's new facility (with at least 8 multi axis machines) in May as it was being set up. Al Anabi, in conjunction with AJPE, certainly also has the capability.

One of the guys who was with us at DSR is a CMM inspector for Honeywell Aerospace. He said it would be possible to reverse engineer almost any billet piece with current CMM technology.

If the big boys aren't making their own huffers, it would be interesting to know whose technology they are using.

 

[Buns]

Perhaps a little off track, but I'd like to know which (if any) fuel teams are producing their own blowers. JFR has had a large CNC department for several years and we saw DSR's new facility (with at least 8 multi axis machines) in May as it was being set up. Al Anabi, in conjunction with AJPE, certainly also has the capability.

One of the guys who was with us at DSR is a CMM inspector for Honeywell Aerospace. He said it would be possible to reverse engineer almost any billet piece with current CMM technology.

If the big boys aren't making their own huffers, it would be interesting to know whose technology they are using.

8 CNC's? That's amazing.

I'd like to know the answer to this great question, as well.

 

[The Counterfeiter]

8 CNC's? That's amazing.

I'd like to know the answer to this great question, as well.

Bernie - I think we counted 10 at JFR. One of the machines in front was machining a head out of a billet with no operator in sight! Friends at Honeywell have told me that the machines making parts out of exotic alloys are way beyond this technology. Amazing indeed.

 

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Would like to see one of these latest and greatest blowers.
I thought it was just a case, 2 rotors,4 bearings, and two gears.

 

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Would like to see one of these latest and greatest blowers.
I thought it was just a case, 2 rotors,4 bearings, and two gears.

If I'm not mistaken, I think a lot of the blowers have been running 4 gears (gears on both ends of the rotors) for quite a while to keep them timed and prevent them from twisting and beating themselves up.

 

[Buns]

Bernie - I think we counted 10 at JFR. One of the machines in front was machining a head out of a billet with no operator in sight! Friends at Honeywell have told me that the machines making parts out of exotic alloys are way beyond this technology. Amazing indeed.

It's hard to believe how far racing has come and how big money the big money teams really are. I couldn't imagine how much those 10 machines cost. And they're just a cog in the wheel.

I would like to see a pic of one of these uberchargers, too.

 

[handsome]

Would like to see one of these latest and greatest blowers.
I thought it was just a case, 2 rotors,4 bearings, and two gears.

that's the way I thought, but after working on this car, and seeing the computer graphs and the performance is pretty surprising. . I have a littlefield on my pro mod that has been highly modified but can't compare to this billet blower.

 

[Raconteur]

Who is making those Bruce? I remember back in the 90's everyone had to have an SSI, are they even still in business?

Why, yes they are still in business, were you going to buy an SSI Supercharger? Call Rich Lavalle (216) 676-5800

 

[Toejam]

that's the way I thought, but after working on this car, and seeing the computer graphs and the performance is pretty surprising. . I have a littlefield on my pro mod that has been highly modified but can't compare to this billet blower.

I'm suprised the Fuel guys haven't caught on to it! Cause you know if it has that extra 2-3 Lbs. of Boost they'll buy it in a sec!

 

[Nunz]

Wow, $21,000 is a LOT of money for a blower. I know that the PSI screw deal was $10K last I heard, but it lasted for literally hundreds of runs. Bruce is the billet deal you're talking about a roots that has to be re-stripped?

 

[Buns]

Looks like Darren Mayer is in the billet supercharger race, too.

DMPE - Darren Mayer Performance Engineering - Your Supercharger and Performance Racing Specialist - Current Engineering

Some big-time blowers on that site.

 

[Too many to list here]

I'm suprised the Fuel guys haven't caught on to it! Cause you know if it has that extra 2-3 Lbs. of Boost they'll buy it in a sec!

Some fuel guys are leasing them for the year.

 

[handsome]

Wow, $21,000 is a LOT of money for a blower. I know that the PSI screw deal was $10K last I heard, but it lasted for literally hundreds of runs. Bruce is the billet deal you're talking about a roots that has to be re-stripped?

yes it still has to be re-stripped. . but years ago if the blower wasn't "tight" from fresh strips they wouldn't make boost. . I have seen the new ones in "loose" condition make a bunch more boost than any tight one I ever owned. evidently the machining is so precise and tolerances are at a minimum to the point of not needing to be tight to make boost and it frees up horsepower in a way that a screw blower does.

 

[DrRocket]

Looks like Darren Mayer is in the billet supercharger race, too.

DMPE - Darren Mayer Performance Engineering - Your Supercharger and Performance Racing Specialist - Current Engineering

Some big-time blowers on that site.

There's some nice looking CADD images on that site. Wonder which software they use? Probably Solidworks.

 

[jackass]

Some fuel guys are leasing them for the year.

Now this past weekend i talked to a couple guys at the ADRL show that use to run the NHRA PM deal.. they mentioned $100k to buy and $20k to rent one for the year.

 

[Buns]

Now this past weekend i talked to a couple guys at the ADRL show that use to run the NHRA PM deal.. they mentioned $100k to buy and $20k to rent one for the year.

100K to buy a Pro Mod blower? Wow.. Were they 16 or 18-71?

 

[Toejam]

yes it still has to be re-stripped. . but years ago if the blower wasn't "tight" from fresh strips they wouldn't make boost. . I have seen the new ones in "loose" condition make a bunch more boost than any tight one I ever owned. evidently the machining is so precise and tolerances are at a minimum to the point of not needing to be tight to make boost and it frees up horsepower in a way that a screw blower does.

I wonder how many runs you can get out of one? Does it need to be re-certified?

 

[Toejam]

Now this past weekend i talked to a couple guys at the ADRL show that use to run the NHRA PM deal.. they mentioned $100k to buy and $20k to rent one for the year.

I had mentioned on the Promod Zone sight a few months back that Pro mod was Becoming the Millionaires club and got attacked!

 

[handsome]

I wonder how many runs you can get out of one? Does it need to be re-certified?

no re-certifications,just service between national events if you want to run 5.80's