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Winnings? This is frustrating

Jim

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I'm not a golf fan but, look at the list of winnings from yesterday's US Open.

God Lord, the 20th place guy had a decent payday (and he didn't have to pay $30,000. to replace exploded equipment).

http://wallstreetjournal.stats.com/golf/final.asp?tour

:eek:

Dominating performance by that young kid though. ('Course everybody's calling him "The New Tiger" - Great hype.)
 
According to the USGA, there are 25+ million people who play golf in the US. The last numbers I heard were that there are something like 50,000 drag racers. That's a ratio of 500:1. Makes these winnings seem about right...
 
I'm not a golf fan but, look at the list of winnings from yesterday's US Open.

God Lord, the 20th place guy had a decent payday (and he didn't have to pay $30,000. to replace exploded equipment).

http://wallstreetjournal.stats.com/golf/final.asp?tour

:eek:

Dominating performance by that young kid though. ('Course everybody's calling him "The New Tiger" - Great hype.)
You have to get down to like 30th place or so at the US Open before you get to Dixon's winnings from yesterday. Also sad look at the NASCAR winnings from Michigan Sunday ...

NASCAR.COM ... 43rd place driver completed only 21 laps and made almost 72k
 
And if you look at the bottom payout guy in the US Open, he finished 71st (at +19), and made over $16k. I think that's about twice what the Greek made yesterday for his first in 21 years round 2 payout.
 
Originally Posted by Jim Bowen
... 43rd place driver completed only 21 laps and made almost 72k


well duhh-don'tcha know they get paid by the mile? :D That works out to 168 rounds of competition-42 events. Maybe they dont make enuff? :rolleyes:
 
All the money in golf is paid for by sponsors and TV, not the gallery (spectators). The number of golfers is key. If I use a K-Mart putter and win the US Open, how many putters does K-Mart sell on Monday?
 
You really can't compare winnings in motorsports with any stick&ball sport. Apples to oranges. And the drag racing vs. NASCAR winnings debate is an old one. Yeah the NASCAR guys get much bigger purses, but the budgets are HUGE. I don't believe any form of motorsports offers enough in winnings to make sense, relative to the investment needed. Hence, the need for marketing partners.
 
rory mcelroy's name is all over sports media today, yesterday, and most
likely will continue to be.......he's hot, he's lead 7 of 8 major rounds
played this year so far.............wait, did i say 'major'?......golf has
'major' tournaments that golf fans eagerly anticipate and the media
pays close attention to, and tv ratings spike, and the players are rewarded
with larger than average purses!?
 
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The audience for golf is a very high demographic economically. In drag racing, only the Pro's understand the fan relationships as they are the teams with the big dollar sponsors and the sponsors understand the fans. Ours is a sport more oriented toward participation and a less wealthy demographic for the most part.
Even knowing those factors, it still is a remarkable differnce in payouts.
 
I think we, being drag racers and/or drag race fans need to look at our sport relative to other sports in a macro level. As much as we complain about our sport being pre-empted on a sunday evening for left handed red headed badminton, the truth is...in the worlds view our sport isn't much. We love it, yet the world could care less about a sport that is really faceless..meaning the talent is hidden behind a helmet and the competition lasting five seconds. The PGA was a good example of the opposite. It was four hours of live telecast, as much as the press tried to make it a story of a kid in the lead folding...he didn't. His face and life story made for an afternoon of television. If drag racing had the same story, the dilemma of the kid folding would last four rounds of racing at the most and consist of maybe 4 minutes of tv time.

Our sport is a great one in mine and most other drag racing fans eyes, yet to Joe the Plumber we aren't even worth a hesitation on the remote button. For most of the afternoon, alot of people were getting their remote to tune into the kid and to see what he did. How many times do you think Joe the Plumber did that for a pro drag racing team? Its pretty impressive to think about the numbers some sports generate. Look at F-1 and the payouts there for drivers. Hard to imagine yet when put into the perspective that only one other sport in the world, soccer, is more popular, it makes sense.
 
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Toby makes many excellent points.

The key to fans in most sport is the live experience. People only really watch on TV what they've played or seen in person, even if only once or twice. This is why golf and soccer are so popular on TV, they are among the most widely participated sports in the world.

And it's especially true with drag racing. Once you've seen it (really: heard it), it's difficult to forget and most of us watching on TV are recalling that thunderous live experience. No amount of HD can make your chest pound the way a nitro car can, we're all just remembering what it's like. As Toby and others have pointed out, it's hard to evangelize a 4-second experience unless you've felt it in person.

The key to fan expansion in NHRA, therefore, is the live experience. NHRA needs to aggressively work to get people to the track, especially new people.

I think, IMHO, that starts with dramatically lowering the ticket price. Maybe there is a reserved seat price that's today's $50-$60+ a day for some special fan experience or really good seat, but the bulk of them ought to be $10 or less. Maybe ADRL has it right with free? Get people in the door. They'll buy a hot dog or beer or t-shirt, but get them there. They may turn into a fan for life.

And when you get them there, teach them. Use the interminable downtime to teach people about the sport, not to hold "drag races at the drag races" and toss t-shirts into the crowd. Use the big screens not to show the same ad over and over, but to show well-produced videos that teach everything from what a holeshot is, to what index racing is, to how they tune clutches on nitro cars, to even "how you can get involved in racing". I could come up with a list of 20 three minute videos without breaking a sweat.

NHRA should do more to evangelize participation. Most people I run into at the track think that every one of the 500+ cars at a national event must be owned by a millionaire. When I tell them that I first got involved in racing in the sport with an investment not much greater than a new Honda, people don't believe me. When they find out that most people racing are just regular work-a-day folks who have a passion for the sport and spend the same money on it that many people spend on a boat or on golf, they are amazed. Where are the NHRA videos that say "this could be you!"?

And finally NHRA should stop paying ESPN to get screwed on time slots. As I noted, people will start with the live experience and follow it on TV, not the other way around. People don't turn into lifelong NHRA fans by watching the Little League World Series and just happening to tune into the following NHRA broadcast. People hunt down the sport they want to follow. NHRA should go to Speed or somewhere where they are in fact wanted and get a deal that doesn't require them to pay an ungodly sum to get shafted week in and week out. Save money, get better treatment. Seems like a winner to me.

Just my opinion...
 
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