When did a run become a pull and not a pass? (1 Viewer)

[LoPony]

I think somebody got it wrong somewhere along the way, and somehow it stuck. Not for the better, either.

I remember a run as a track PASS. When one goes all the way down the track under power, it is a full PASS, not a full pull. What are we pulling?

Conversely, a dyno run is a PULL. You do not make a pass on the dyno. I still don’t understand what we’re pulling anywhere, track or dyno. Maybe a throttle lever? Usually those are pushed forward on the dyno. Maybe it should be a full push on the dyno.

This is kind of funny. I’m sure it’s not supposed to make sense.

 

[stitcherbob]

Full pull came from the other straight line short competition....tractor pulling.

What I want for the upcoming year is for the announcers to assume that we all know what drag racing is and not explain it every time as if we all fell off a UFO.

 

[LoPony]

Full pull came from the other straight line short competition....tractor pulling.

What I want for the upcoming year is for the announcers to assume that we all know what drag racing is and not explain it every time as if we all fell off a UFO.

Thanks. I haven’t heard this explanation before. But is it a fair comparison?

I’m not disputing your reasoning, just the whole idea.Why would people know what tractor pulling is and “full pull” without knowing what drag racing is? I would think drag racing is the most familiar motorsport to everybody on the planet that drives a car. Which is to your point above.

Full pull offends the senses somehow. Drag racing is not tractor pulling.

 

[T.Smith]

Dyno pulls...engine or rear wheels.

60mph - 130mph pulls on the highway.

 

[mike]

Thanks. I haven’t heard this explanation before. But is it a fair comparison?

I’m not disputing your reasoning, just the whole idea.Why would people know what tractor pulling is and “full pull” without knowing what drag racing is? I would think drag racing is the most familiar motorsport to everybody on the planet that drives a car. Which is to your point above.

Full pull offends the senses somehow. Drag racing is not tractor pulling.

try explaining throttle stops and breakouts

 

[none]

When you are under acceleration the machine is pulling, when it put's a hole out, it is not pulling as hard. When it shuts off or you lift it stops pulling.

Have you ever heard (or said): "It quit pulling about halftrack"? Or: "Man, it was really pulling through the middle"?

On the Dyno the engine is pulling against the water brake, which is holding it back.

Alan

 

[mike]

When you are under acceleration the machine is pulling, when it put's a hole out, it is not pulling as hard. When it shuts off or you lift it stops pulling.

Have you ever heard (or said): "It quit pulling about halftrack"? Or: "Man, it was really pulling through the middle"?

On the Dyno the engine is pulling against the water brake, which is holding it back.

Alan

Racers will sure miss your analysis and insight at the fore coming season we miss seeing you on nhra as will m---any others

 

[Marchboom]

And then there is the term some announcers use...SEED. "This racer is the number 3 SEED", etc. This is not tennis. Please don't use tennis terms. Where did that term come from anyway?

 

[ch streetcars]

Chris French: I agree completely that a nice full pass is what the announcers and us fans always referred it as. Here in Iowa we have lots of tractor/truck pulls, so I just don't get how the term pull applies. Does a pro-stocker make a pull also? All the milestones that I"ve seen broken over the last 45 years, were referred to a a 4.99 pass, or run. What would Mac, Evans or Dunn say?

 

[n/a]

I have no issue on Pull, Run or Pass.
Calling a drag race a Lap is an absolute insult.
I’ve done both (neither very well) but until a drag car makes a U turn and races back to the starting line it will NEVER be a “Lap”
Please stop the madness.

 

[none]

From Dictionary.com

Lap: Verb:
a complete circuit of a course in racing

The course in a Drag Race is to go from the starting line to the finish line. That's a "Lap"

Alan

 

[Custom Body Fan]

From Dictionary.com

Lap: Verb:
a complete circuit of a course in racing

The course in a Drag Race is to go from the starting line to the finish line. That's a "Lap"

Alan

So I think the question is, what is a circuit. Per the dictionary, there are a lot of definitions of circuits, and are drag racers making a circuit. I tend to think not, but the definition definitely leaves plenty of latitude:

Definition of CIRCUIT

a usually circular line encompassing an area; the space enclosed within such a line; a course around a periphery… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[Chili]

To me a full pull would be under power from start to finish. A full pass would be going from start to finish but not necessarily under full power. A throttle stop car could never make a full pull.

 

[M Jones]

When you are under acceleration the machine is pulling, when it put's a hole out, it is not pulling as hard. When it shuts off or you lift it stops pulling.

Have you ever heard (or said): "It quit pulling about halftrack"? Or: "Man, it was really pulling through the middle"?

On the Dyno the engine is pulling against the water brake, which is holding it back.

Alan

Thanks Alan, how about laid over, or laid down before the lights, also used to describe car stopped pulling hard before finish line

 

[twostep]

Thanks. I haven’t heard this explanation before. But is it a fair comparison?

I’m not disputing your reasoning, just the whole idea.Why would people know what tractor pulling is and “full pull” without knowing what drag racing is? I would think drag racing is the most familiar motorsport to everybody on the planet that drives a car. Which is to your point above.

Full pull offends the senses somehow. Drag racing is not tractor pulling.

It's just an euphemism. If Austin Prock were to redlight, someone might say he 'jumped the gun'. I trust nobody would expect that comment to be limited to a description of someone laying an AR15 down on the starting line and witnessing Austin jump over it. Same deal with 'jump the shark' which isn't intended to describe people who jump over sharks.

 

[stitcherbob]

Thanks Alan, how about laid over, or laid down before the lights, also used to describe car stopped pulling hard before finish line

It always was “nosed over” in the Diamond P days.

 

[stitcherbob]

Full pull in tractor pulling is “ out the back door”, full power and optimum traction.
A “pass” is when a car makes an attempt to run the full track. If you “bulb” your car at the tree and then don’t go, just breaking the beams, and your competitor red lights, you win but you never make the “run” … just lined up for a pass

 

[BaldyLochs]

A pass is made in a dragster, a rail or even in a digger.
Runs and pulls happen in Funny Cars and Floppers.
Laps are made in slingshots.

 

[NitroLuver]

I have no issue on Pull, Run or Pass.
Calling a drag race a Lap is an absolute insult.
I’ve done both (neither very well) but until a drag car makes a U turn and races back to the starting line it will NEVER be a “Lap”
Please stop the madness.

Funny thing is, I've seen plenty of drivers themselves call them a "lap". *shrug*

 

[cknight]

I always considered a "lap" as continuing past the same place twice.... Not counting your trailer.....