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[mick]

first rnd., r. brogdon.
- anyone realize how close that was to another allen/koretsky?
- also, if this incident would have transpired in concord.........know where i'm
going with this?
- comments not in any way directed at either of the two
competitors involved in this first round race; only using race for commentary

 

[MM]

if it would have happened at Concord he would have hit the wall separating the two race tracks and it would have gone down exactly the same

 

[Tim5636sc]

first rnd., r. brogdon.
- anyone realize how close that was to another allen/koretsky?
- also, if this incident would have transpired in concord.........know where i'm
going with this?
- comments not in any way directed at either of the two
competitors involved in this first round race; only using race for commentary

- Sure was close... so was Vinnie's and Gordie's situation in Phoenix but luckily the cars did not come together...

- If it would happened at concord the results would have been the same. Did the car go over the track? Nope... Was the Safety Safari on top of both Hagan and Jeff's cars when they both blew up on the same pass in Concord? YUP... Safety's not any more of an issue at that 4-wide facility than at any other track. I think NHRA and the Safety Safari proved this during the race weekend in Concord. Do I know where you're going with this... sure do.... and the horse is sitting in a corn-field in Nebraska waiting to be beat....

- I believe it was some guy named Big Daddy who once said, "It's not if you're gonna crash...it's a matter of when and how bad..." Accidents happen all the time. It's a part of any motorsport.

COULD Roger's crash been more damaging......if? yes.
COULD Hagan and Jeff's accident been more damaging......if? yes.
COULD my aunt be my uncle IF she had balls..? yes.

 

[my friends call me Zappy]

first rnd., r. brogdon.
- anyone realize how close that was to another allen/koretsky?
- also, if this incident would have transpired in concord.........know where i'm
going with this?

No I don't know where yer goin
At any other track he would have hit the same concrete wall and rolled over.

 

[Rocketman 207]

COULD my aunt be my uncle IF she had balls..? yes.

Speaking of Jeff Gordon...

 

[Butch]

I watched the race last night. In slow frame X Frame you can see he caught the Left Pilot chute of the other car as he crossed over behind it.
That's how close it was.

 

[Too many to list here]

Speaking of Jeff Gordon...

Chips and salsa on the keyboard!! Dammit!!!

 

[Huge]

Hats off to the safety safari, for an awesome job getting Rodger out of the car. That could have turned ugly, fast.

 

[Bullet]

first rnd., r. brogdon.
- anyone realize how close that was to another allen/koretsky?
- also, if this incident would have transpired in concord.........know where i'm
going with this?
- comments not in any way directed at either of the two
competitors involved in this first round race; only using race for commentary

I personally think it was far from another Allen/Koretsky incident. Both cars were off the line together. Brogden got loose around 900'-1000' at which point Humphreys was still accelerating and pulling away and Brogden was slowing.

If two cars of very close performance leave the line at the same time it is very difficult for a collision like the Allen/Koretsky to occur simply due to track position.

 

[Professional Fan]

I do think it is a testament to the safety built into the cars that Roger could hit the wall that hard and not be seriously hurt. It was amazing to me that I was able to talk to him at his pit a couple of hours after the accident. However, I'm glad I didn't wake up in his body Monday morning as I imagine he was pretty sore.

 

[d'kid]

I do think it is a testament to the safety built into the cars that Roger could hit the wall that hard and not be seriously hurt. It was amazing to me that I was able to talk to him at his pit a couple of hours after the accident. However, I'm glad I didn't wake up in his body Monday morning as I imagine he was pretty sore.

And I'm Happy that Roger is still here to wake up Monday Morning

 

[Tim5636sc]

speaking of jeff gordon...

awesome!!!!

 

[mick]

'where I was going' was the fact racers complained
about not lifting due to not knowing about apponent's
situations in lanes they could not see and their inability
to react in pursuit of a win.........anyone think
this was the case here?

 

[Tim5636sc]

'where I was going' was the fact racers complained
about not lifting due to not knowing about apponent's
situations in lanes they could not see and their inability
to react in pursuit of a win.........anyone think
this was the case here?

Not at all.

In this case, the accident happened on a two-lane race track, with walls on both sides to keep the cars contained. Roger drifted towards the center line, corrected, the car lost down force and flipped on its side. The car then impacted the wall... (STAYED IN THE SAME TWO LANE RACE TRACK) and came to a stop.

Roger knew where Justin was on the track. There was no other car(s) to worry about. This is not his first day at the drags ya know..

In his post race interview, Roger joked that Steve Kent (team co-owner) said, "keep ur foot in it unless you're on your top".... It's a joke of course, but it is eliminations after all. Drivers often make errors in judgement when the MONEY IS ON THE LINE. It's the competitive spirit we enjoy to watch from these drivers.

I don't think Roger's inability to see his opponent had anything to do with the results. He kept his foot in it, something happened to lose control of the car, accident occurred... He walked away....

 

[vegasnitro]

Over correction ends up over on the roof. We have seen it many times in Pro Stock. Had nothing to do with the track.

The only guy to ever get it that far sideways and get away with it was Jeggie at Columbus '03 ... when the car got sideways he went to the chutes instead of the steering wheel to get her straightened out. One of the many reasons I do not believe Jeggie to be human.

 

[Bullet]

The only guy to ever get it that far sideways and get away with it was Jeggie at Columbus '03 ... when the car got sideways he went to the chutes instead of the steering wheel to get her straightened out. One of the many reasons I do not believe Jeggie to be human.

To this day that is one of the best saves I have ever seen in Pro Stock!

That said, Jeggie did have the benefit of seeing Taylor Lastor and Jason Line go turtle before him so he had a bit of an idea that part of the track was shiite.

 

[MoparBilly]

Chris,
From some of the in-car footage in Pro-Stock, I'd say Jeggie is human... or at least very good a mimicking Human emotions!! I certainly beleive he's the best driver in the sport, period.

The only thing that upset me watching Rodger's wreck was how long it took someone to go to the back of the car and hit the battery cut-off switch! In Pro-Stock, it is becoming abundently clear that ANY correction is an over-correction on the top end, once the aero is upset and the back-end gets light, you lose traction on the rear tires and it's over...

Rodger's a great guy, hope he's feeling better by now. Always enjoyed visiting his pit when he ran Comp in D-4.

 

[Gipraw]

Over correction ends up over on the roof. We have seen it many times in Pro Stock. Had nothing to do with the track.

The only guy to ever get it that far sideways and get away with it was Jeggie at Columbus '03 ... when the car got sideways he went to the chutes instead of the steering wheel to get her straightened out. One of the many reasons I do not believe Jeggie to be human.

speaking of that .. anyone have a link to the video of that? been looking for it for a bit.


I am very happy Roger got out ok .. I was worried when he unhooked his belts and fell. He looked stuck and disoriented. (been there in that situation .. it sucks) I though the safety safari did an awesome job of keeping him safe until they got him out.

 

[sdwarf36]

I though the safety safari did an awesome job of keeping him safe until they got him out.

Boy-it sure seemed to me (being a keyboard fireman for a moment) that it took forever to get the fire out. Whats a P/s hold for fuel? 2-3 gallons ? And it sure semed like it was water they were spraying. It may have been the camera angle but didn't it look like 2 members were shooting the hoses towards each other from oposite sides of the car? And after 20? 30? 45 seconds? foam + dry power were sprayed and the fire went out. PLEASE tell me I'm wrong on this-but what I saw didn't look like pros containing a small situation quickly.

 

[Butch]

We have had a rash of P/S crashes this year, and all were from cars in the left lane. How long will NHRA let this go on?
I would not be surprised to see a ban on running cars in the left lane in the name of safety.

OK guy only joking.