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Agreed. But the electronic eyes are never wrong. Ask Steve Johnson :)

What exactly are you implying. AJ cut a 0.20 light and ran 6.692. Erica cut a 0.14 light, 7 thou advantage, ran 6.697. Holeshot win. Technically she ran a 6.690 with the help of the rt.

No funny business, No Steve Johnson Indy reference. The numbers don't lie, so I am lost at what you guys are trying to say!
 
What exactly are you implying. AJ cut a 0.20 light and ran 6.692. Erica cut a 0.14 light, 7 thou advantage, ran 6.697. Holeshot win. Technically she ran a 6.690 with the help of the rt.

No funny business, No Steve Johnson Indy reference. The numbers don't lie, so I am lost at what you guys are trying to say!

The video on TV sure looked like AJ was ahead @ the stripe, I think this is what everyone is referring to.
 
sure it may looked like it, I seen some where I was fooled too. The eyes may fool us, but the R/T and the E/T can't be wrong and statistically there is no way that AJ won that race.
 
sure it may looked like it, I seen some where I was fooled too. The eyes may fool us, but the R/T and the E/T can't be wrong and statistically there is no way that AJ won that race.

The RT and ET come from the electronics. Electronics can be wrong, as they were in the Steve Johnson case.
 
to me, it possibly looked like AJ was ahead by a coat of paint, but it was way to close to call visually !!
 
The RT and ET come from the electronics. Electronics can be wrong, as they were in the Steve Johnson case.

Steve Johnson was a totally different situation. The RT and ET was not wrong, his wheel did not break the beam.Harley teams had that issue, we had the issue with our bike in the AHDRA and others did as well and we all fixed it the same way. The electronics were right yesterday.
 
I'm not trying to bust balls and I don't want anyone to think I am. I just know how quickly people assume things here and this way not an NHRA conspiracy to let a woman go to the final.
 
Technically the electronics didn't lie in the Steve Johnson case, they detected the other bike first due to the frequency of the beams and the low profile of the tire/wheel of the PSB's, but lets not get into that... :)

With the cars tripping on the body, they would not suffer from the same problems.
 
I'm not saying it's a conspiracy, I'm not saying the electronics were wrong, I'm not saying that anything should be done. I'm just saying it sure looked the other way in the slo-mo. When I was watching it it sure looked like she won. I backed it up three times, and it just wasn't clear that he won. That's it.
 
I'm not saying it's a conspiracy, I'm not saying the electronics were wrong, I'm not saying that anything should be done. I'm just saying it sure looked the other way in the slo-mo. When I was watching it it sure looked like she won. I backed it up three times, and it just wasn't clear that he won. That's it.

You said the electronics were wrong, Johnson should have won, the NHRA has a conspiracy for a female PS winner, man NEVER made it to the moon, Elvis is still alive and that it is all Obama's fault......... ;) :D
 
It was probably because the cars were bouncing so bad that AJ was ahead but nose was in the air due to bumps. Therefore letting Erica take the win with nose of car


I doubt Ajs nose was that high in the air. :rolleyes:

I looked at the front wheels center to center, and Erica was ahead. I assume both cars have max overhang so to me I didn't see anything wrong.
 
they show one replay from the starting line down track and if you slow it down it shows allen's scoreboard comming on first but lighting erica's win light when hers comes on don't know if that means anything
 
I cant see how any reason can be attributed. The numbers i posted before of the run did not lie. He ran what he did, as she did with her's. She got him on the tree by just 7 thou and that was enough. How can there be anyway that Allen won? R/T, E/T tell the story. MOV was .0013. What more could ever prove Enders the winner? There is no possible way Allen won.
 
One formula I remember from an old Diamond P broadcast was adding the reaction time to the elapsed time for a total time and then subtracting the two for a true win margin. So using that formula:

EE: 0.014 + 6.697 = 6.711
AJ: 0.020 + 6.692 = 6.712

Diff = 0.001, advantage Enders

Had AJ not drifted towards the centerline, he probably would've gotten the round win
 
I cant see how any reason can be attributed. The numbers i posted before of the run did not lie. He ran what he did, as she did with her's. She got him on the tree by just 7 thou and that was enough. How can there be anyway that Allen won? R/T, E/T tell the story. MOV was .0013. What more could ever prove Enders the winner? There is no possible way Allen won.

Yes the numbers add up but if there was a problem with the beam in AJ's lane or if the nose profiles and heights of the cars (at speed) are different enough it's possible for one car to be slightly ahead but if the second car trips the beam first it would light the win light in that lane, and record a quicker ET etc so the numbers add up.

That doesn't seem likely as the finish line beams are high as to be sure the nose of each car trips the beam and not the tires. At AJ's speed of 205.41, a .0013 margin of victory equates to 4.7 inches on the track. This probably rules out any slight differences in the nose profiles of the cars but who knows.
 
all I know is electronics did their job. As far as body stuff, can't we trust the NHRA to firmly be on top of all of that?
 
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