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Toejam

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Looks like the Democratic party owns NBC! The Clinton Mafia convinved or threatened NBC over the Path to 9-11 over the portrayal of the Clinton Admin. during in the 90's when dealing or lack of with terrorism. So know we'll all see a fluff piece on just how Tough the Cllinton administration was on Terrorism. They don't mention Mogadishu, Blackhawk down, the Kolbal towers. They probably forced them to edit out the Bombing of the USS Cole. Don't you just love censorship.................:mad:
 
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Republicans didn't call it censorship when they put pressure on CBS to pull the mini-series about Ronald Reagan a few years back. And just as conservatives back then complained about the Reagan movie, one of the problems with this so-called ABC "docu-drama" is that it is not only revisionist history, but it actually portrays events that never happened and deliberately distorts and/or lies about events that did. Indeed, members of the 9/11 Commission have stated that the movie is not accurate - as do many of the people who are portrayed in the film. The entire thing has actually proven itself to be little more than a conservative "blame Clinton" hit piece.

You might also want to recall that it was the first President Bush, not Clinton, that got the US involved in Mogadishu. Clinton merely inherited that mess, and like Ronald Reagan did in regard to Beruit in '82, withdrew our troops following a military disaster. You might want to remember, too, that the attack on the USS Cole took place on October 12th, 2000, less than a month before the presidential election. When Clinton had previously ordered attacks on Saddam in Iraq, Osama in Afghanistan, and elsewhere, Republicans accused him of "wagging the dog." Had he ordered an attack in response to the attack on the USS Cole despite that fall's election campaign, he would have again been accused of an "October surprise" in an effort to affect the election. The question to ask is not why Clinton didn't respond to the Cole bombing in the three months he remained in office following the attack, but why the Bush administration did nothing about the Cole in the nine months prior to the attack of 9/11.
 
Rose colored glasses? Perhaps. But even if true, those rose colored glasses are not blinders that prevent me from viewing the facts. I mean I would like to think that I could base my response on facts rather than resort to calling those with whom I disagree "mafia" or "nazis".

And whatever Clinton's faults, the one thing we can say in his favor is that he didn't try to blame the previous administration for the disaster in Somolia despite the fact that he inherited that situation. And if Republicans are going to fault Clinton for withdrawing our troops from that region following the bloody disaster in Mogadishu, then I trust that they are willing to likewise condemn Reagan with equal force for withdrawing troops from Lebanon following the deaths of more than 200 US servicemen in a terrorist attack in Beruit. I mean, we wouldn't want to think that Republicans have some kind of double-standard, now would we?
 
Does anyone else ever wonder if both sides are playing divide and conquer? Each side seems more and more to be catering to the few of each party, leaving the rest of us to pick up the tab. I just take comfort in the fact that their power is transitory: God gets the final say.:)
 
Rich, if you've seen the uncut version of the movie it blame both W and Clinton but keep in mind that W was in office only a few months before 9/11. Clinton had from the World Trade Center on and did very little.


Rich, dont get the idea that I'm behind either one of the 2 presidents. They are both models of my feelings, politican=lying thief.
 
The planning for the bombing of the World Trade Center that you refer to began in 1991 while the first President Bush was in office and was carried out on February 26, 1993 after Clinton had been in office for little more than one month. I also beg to differ that Clinton "did very little" with regard to that terrorist attack. Ramzi Yousef and nine other Islamic militants who conspired and carried out the terrorist attack were given maximum life sentences of 240 years each and are sitting in prison isolation cells to this very day.

And while I don't necessarily agree with you that "politican=lying thief" I can certainly appreciate the sentiment.
:D
 
Ok, name a honest one.

Clinton did send all that were involved that they caught to prison but never went any further.
 
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All of these old Clinton lefties that have been on every talk show, etc condemning this TV show were no where to be seen when Fahrenheit 911, which was a complete fabrication by a proven America hater, was going to be released. Where were these people who only want the truth, or at least their version of the truth, broadcast.
 
Does anyone else ever wonder if both sides are playing divide and conquer? Each side seems more and more to be catering to the few of each party, leaving the rest of us to pick up the tab. I just take comfort in the fact that their power is transitory: God gets the final say.:)

AMEN, thanks Kelly, its good to hear the TRUTH :cool:
 
All of these old Clinton lefties that have been on every talk show, etc condemning this TV show were no where to be seen when Fahrenheit 911, which was a complete fabrication by a proven America hater, was going to be released. Where were these people who only want the truth, or at least their version of the truth, broadcast.

The difference is that those wanting to see Moore's film had to pay to see it in a theater while this so-called "docu-drama" will be shown commercial free on a major American network. Had Fahrenheit 911 been shown on ABC, CBS, or NBC in primetime I might agree with your point.

And, by the way, conservatives do not have a monopoly on patriotism. To disagree with politics and policy, or even this President, does not make one an "America hater". The right to dissent is at the heart of what it means to be an American. As Theodore Roosevelt said, "“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
 
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this so-called "docu-drama"
Care to point out any inaccuracies? It's been thoroughly checked and researched and nothing was proven to be untrue. Obviously things have to be condensed to make it TV presentable but the information is correct.
 
Republicans didn't call it censorship when they put pressure on CBS to pull the mini-series about Ronald Reagan a few years back. And just as conservatives back then complained about the Reagan movie, one of the problems with this so-called ABC "docu-drama" is that it is not only revisionist history, but it actually portrays events that never happened and deliberately distorts and/or lies about events that did. Indeed, members of the 9/11 Commission have stated that the movie is not accurate - as do many of the people who are portrayed in the film. The entire thing has actually proven itself to be little more than a conservative "blame Clinton" hit piece.

You might also want to recall that it was the first President Bush, not Clinton, that got the US involved in Mogadishu. Clinton merely inherited that mess, and like Ronald Reagan did in regard to Beruit in '82, withdrew our troops following a military disaster. You might want to remember, too, that the attack on the USS Cole took place on October 12th, 2000, less than a month before the presidential election. When Clinton had previously ordered attacks on Saddam in Iraq, Osama in Afghanistan, and elsewhere, Republicans accused him of "wagging the dog." Had he ordered an attack in response to the attack on the USS Cole despite that fall's election campaign, he would have again been accused of an "October surprise" in an effort to affect the election. The question to ask is not why Clinton didn't respond to the Cole bombing in the three months he remained in office following the attack, but why the Bush administration did nothing about the Cole in the nine months prior to the attack of 9/11.

well that's a good argument for one simple fact - there ARE two sides to the story, despite the fact that the internet and cable TV is enormously weighted towards the right wing view.

here's republican logic for you:

WTC basement bombing one month after clinton takes office - clintons' fault

9/11 , 9 months after bush takes office - also clintons' fault.

understand that and you understand how reasonable and rational the right wing is after 17 years of listening to limbaugh.
 
Now looky here folks I had to forage around for another place to rant politics on [ no one stop serves all anymore ] .
I promised and I will live up to that promise so quit tempting me.
Shame on you Bob and Doc every one is under the same edit and 50 lashings to the abuser.
I found a site where the conservatives are outnumbered 3 to one so there is a veritable smorgasbord of goodies to pick from.
I've already blown up a high speed aircard over there and am operating on backup phone modem.
I've always voted conservative even before I knew what one really was but did not participate vocally till a city council [ and a few concerned citizens ] tried to shut down my home racetrack and the owner managed to get a stay and racers started buying lots around the track and building homes to have their say.
You learn quick its importance when someone threatens to take your rights away.
Anyway a compromise was reached that kept the track open and the citizens happy [ sort of anyway ].
In other words politics does in my view have a place in a racing site but my lips are sealed [ zipped ] closed, muted , at rest, still, silent.
Its hard but I am tuff and can do it!!!!!!!!!
 
If the Republicans were anywhere near where they should be, I could join in more of the partisan debates like I used to. When they didn't stand on the accomplishments of their own tax cuts last time around, I knew that was pretty much it. I waited for years for the conservative movement to get them all three branches. They haven't even started to do with it what I thought they would. The Democrats still give me far more to disagree with, though.
 
I forgot about you Ron! Without violating the rule I can say I agree entirely! How come you ain't out there making a buck or on the phone looking ! LOL
You got any scoop on Nascar departing XM and the new show on 143 power shift at 5:00 CT. I left you a message when I found out from Reinhart's posting he was on it Tuesdays for a segment. Come clean sir
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LOL, trust me when I say that I always (it DOES seem eternal sometimes!) try to be working on things I can't talk about. I/we have a lot of hope for something that should start happening within the next year, sooner if the right investor(s) come through.
 
well that's a good argument for one simple fact - there ARE two sides to the story, despite the fact that the internet and cable TV is enormously weighted towards the right wing view.

here's republican logic for you:

WTC basement bombing one month after clinton takes office - clintons' fault

9/11 , 9 months after bush takes office - also clintons' fault.

understand that and you understand how reasonable and rational the right wing is after 17 years of listening to limbaugh.

and thank God for cable tv and the internet. prior to that all you heard(and still hear) are the liberal leftists on tv and in the movies. I got a good laugh though when all the networks gave Bill and Hillary air time this week screaming about telling the truth....when they spent 8 years lying their butts off....also,every time we were attacked by the enemy during those glorius clinton years, he would go on those networks saying"they will pay" yet he never did anything about it. I'm not happy about the current loss of life happening overseas right now,especially as a wounded veteran of another unpopular war in our history...but do you want it here? well enough of my 2cents.
 
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