TopFuel@Lions
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What Jon Clark said, this decision blows.
TopFuel@Lions
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Here's more:I want a car that runs on water. Anybody remember that from many years ago? Guy claimed he could run the engine on good old H20. Hmmmm
Wait, what about hydrogen cars? They already exist & I get the feeling that the pro-battery people don't want them around.
Seems like the No.1 reason has more to do with land values than noise issues these days.the number one reason race tracks are shut down is the noise. They can put a track downtown now and disturb no one. LOL.
Your absolutely right the carbon footprint to produce the batteries for these vehicles far outweighs a combustion engine car!I can't believe how all the automakers are just flipping the switch (pun intended) and declaring a move to all electric. I'm not against them, and yeah I know they're fast, but why isn't there more of a conversation about just how "green" this initiative is? Does anybody talk about what it takes to mine lithium? Or how much more coal is being burned to produce enough electricity to fill this huge need? Maybe I'm missing something. But, I would really like to understand more about this whole deal.
The rich get richer and the poor gets poorer. I realized this early in my working life and it's never going to change.After looking at who the winners and losers are financially if the USA kills ICE and goes electric, it becomes obvious this has little to do with the environment. That's just the excuse to make fortunes off the US's huge transportation needs.
Big oil has been called big oil for a reason and John D Rockefeller was the wealthiest man in America for a long time because of it. Big oil still equals big money. But... kill off all gas and diesel engines by convincing the public they are killing the environment and the country is pushed into a huge new market. The money that will be made is huge and the profits will be replenished yearly.
Before I go on... I'm talking politics here but not saying anything about anybody or any side, be it Republican, Democrat, Independent, Communist or whatever. If I'm still wrong... (that just makes you in agreement with my wife.) If I'm still wrong in putting this out, please delete it or whatever needs to be done.
I believe that many in political power are surely heavily invested in all the different facets of electric transportation. When the money to be made is this huge, many could care less that it isn't any better for the environment than ICE transportation. If you are a high power politician and your wife, brother or son are heavily invested in whatever the new product is that you mandate in with your vote, your family and you win huge fortunes. It would be very interesting to know what companies our politician's family members are "in on the ground floor of" wouldn't it. Environment be damned - wallet be full.
This time, I think it's those in power get richer at the detriment of those currently "rich" in oil. Big oil and the ICE industry lose big time. Its those in political power who are positioned to decide who the new winners are. Yes, surely most of the investors will already be rich and have large sums of money to invest in an automatic winner. This is redistribution of wealth at the highest levels.The rich get richer and the poor gets poorer. I realized this early in my working life and it's never going to change.
It’s ironic but also the whole point. Mopar can stay connected to the people who would be likely to buy their existing ICE products and move them over to their EVs. NHRA is just the means of continuing a dialogue with those potential buyers.I find it ironic that Mopar says they are going to increase their involvement with NHRA and NASCAR, yet their ending the muscle car market.
I've looked (but not too seriously)_ at the Plug-in Hybrid option. As most of our driving is short hops around town with occasional 200 / 300-mile weekenders, they seem perfect.What a completely asinine decision. And not the first car company to make such a proclamation. Within a few short years, this will prove to be one of the biggest mistakes that major corporations have ever made. A muscle car that doesn't make any noise. Wow. What a concept.
"Hey, I know, let's drive from Los Angeles to Las Vegas!"
"But, you know, we will have to spend 4 hours in Baker re-charging the car, 'cause it can't make it there on one charge. And, there will be a line a mile long at the charging station. And, those super-nifty solar panels don't produce anywhere near enough electricity for the demand of all those charging stations."
"Don't worry, the government will have it all figured out by 2024. Let's Go!"
In the early 1900's, the majority of automobiles in Denver (and other high-altitude cities) were electric. No power loss from the thin air.It's almost full circle. There were electric cars in the 1900's, Baker was one brand. see below.
Very well said! The combustion engine has been perfected just in time to see its demise! This has everything to do with wealth and not a dam thing to do with the environment!The rich get richer and the poor gets poorer. I realized this early in my working life and it's never going to change.
And when your electric car drains before your destination it’s not like you can hitch a ride or have AAA supply you with a couple of gallons of electricity! LOL Maybe carrying around a small gas generator in your trunk! LOLMany people in Phoenix like to drive up to Flagstaff. About 60 miles N or Phx is Cordes Junction. Tesla has a charging station there. Always see 4-6 Teslas there when we stop (2 truck stops there). Have noticed in the last few years that more & more Lectrics are stopping to charge there. I dunno where the charging station is in Flagstaff, but they do have one. Still I realize that if (God forbid) I had an electric, I'd be really limited in how far I could go. It's around 120 miles from Phx to Flagstaff.
Or a pop up solar grid with a small tent to spend the day and or night inAnd when your electric car drains before your destination it’s not like you can hitch a ride or have AAA supply you with a couple of gallons of electricity! LOL Maybe carrying around a small gas generator in your trunk! LOL