So let me get this straight? This fellow calls people stupid, and bashes anyone in his path, and he is a great fellow. But if someone else does, they are a bad person, or just too difficult to deal with? I agree with larry by the way, Bob Glidden is a tough sob. He does want to win, he also knows that with the resources that larry has/had, he could be a serious contender. But for that to happen, everyone has to want it as bad as........................?????????????????????????????? lets say Greg Anderson! It is a shame that everything turned out as badly as it did, but thats actually how about all relationships go today. I just think it is time to let all the hatrid go, and move on, heck larry called Bob during pomona this very year, and asked him to fly out and help him sort out his program. Now which way is it? Use a guy for his knowledge then send him down river, and bad mouth him all the way? I feel that larry could be a little more gratious for the big bad pricks efforts. Thanks, BG