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I haven't watched the entire race yet - were the Pro Stocks all getting squirrelly because of the cold track in R1? Did they ever resume PS racing?
 
I haven't watched the entire race yet - were the Pro Stocks all getting squirrelly because of the cold track in R1? Did they ever resume PS racing?

Several cars got loose afterwards, even Jeggie's car made a move and got loose.
 
Plus the head wind didn't help matters. No finals for Pro-mod or Factory stock also. Down force was the factor.
 
I ask this while admitting you folks have forgotten more about drag racing than I’ll ever know. Alan was talking about downforce today and downforce was mentioned above this post as well. How much downforce does a Top Dragster wing make? I was glad to see Pro Mod get sent back to the pits and I was anxious/worried when it was apparent they were going to send TD down the track. Hope the guy is ok because that was a really hard hit.
 
So pro stock will not race tomorrow.
 

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This reminds me of Phoenix one year. Track was glued until 1000' and when Pro Stock ran, they had all kinds of problems. Not sure if that was the reason today, but Pro Stock seemed to be affected by the right lane only. Left lane all seemed to make good runs. Maybe the wind & cold track? Be interesting to hear what the drivers said. I watched the race on TV, never saw Pro Mod run.
 
So as someone who poorly understands the Pro Stock rule set, is there any technical reason the NHRA can not mandate more downforce for Pro Stock and Pro Mod? I know they like to call out the NHRA for track prep but surely more downforce could also solve the problem. Yes there would be some hundredths lost, but is that such a big deal - especially as people worry about the top speeds of the heavy Pro Mods regardless?
Big wings might even make them look a bit cooler to spectators again.
 
I ask this while admitting you folks have forgotten more about drag racing than I’ll ever know. Alan was talking about downforce today and downforce was mentioned above this post as well. How much downforce does a Top Dragster wing make? I was glad to see Pro Mod get sent back to the pits and I was anxious/worried when it was apparent they were going to send TD down the track. Hope the guy is ok because that was a really hard hit.
Generally speaking, not that much. I don't know any actual numbers for that, though. We have the AOA set pretty low to keep drag at a minimum. However, he car is so stable at speed that the spill plates are pretty much all that are needed to keep the car pointed straight (most of the time).

He posted a live feed yesterday from the hospital and said the tests came back good, so he was just going to stay a few hours for observation. I haven't heard anything since then, though.
Edit: he was released from the hospital after an overnight stay and was at the track today. Looks like he escaped with just a few bruises and a headache.
 
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So as someone who poorly understands the Pro Stock rule set, is there any technical reason the NHRA can not mandate more downforce for Pro Stock and Pro Mod? I know they like to call out the NHRA for track prep but surely more downforce could also solve the problem. Yes there would be some hundredths lost, but is that such a big deal - especially as people worry about the top speeds of the heavy Pro Mods regardless?
Big wings might even make them look a bit cooler to spectators again.


In the past they have complained such things would also create drag and slow them down.
 
P/S spends Thousands of dollars in aero research to go faster. Change the down force rule and you'll see one quite of a shit show.
 
Everytime there is an issue like what happened in STL, the racers complain about 2 things, 1) track prep and 2) lack of downforce. I believe NHRA has addressed the track prep issue and I applaud them for the decision to stop running Pro Stock, but I would like to see them mandate a minimum/maximum rear spoiler height...or wicker bill. I'm not sure of the cost to teams, but giving the racer the ability to control the downforce will be helpful.
 
Everytime there is an issue like what happened in STL, the racers complain about 2 things, 1) track prep and 2) lack of downforce. I believe NHRA has addressed the track prep issue and I applaud them for the decision to stop running Pro Stock, but I would like to see them mandate a minimum/maximum rear spoiler height...or wicker bill. I'm not sure of the cost to teams, but giving the racer the ability to control the downforce will be helpful.
I haven't seen those complaints for this race. Everybody I know was blaming it on a cold track and a stiff head/cross wind, neither of which is in anybody's control. PS and PM would need nitro-level downforce or a shortened racetrack (1/8 mile) to deal with the day's conditions, and those aren't going to happen. Even with rule amendments to try and stabilize them, these circumstances were unfavorable for high-HP, short wheelbase cars (except for FC, but they're different).
 
Seems like if they just made all PRO classes run 1000 feet track prep as well as weather conditions would be less of an issue and it would make it uniform and easier. Most likely would get more cars that run 1/8th mile to come over to the NHRA events.
 
Seems like if they just made all PRO classes run 1000 feet track prep as well as weather conditions would be less of an issue and it would make it uniform and easier. Most likely would get more cars that run 1/8th mile to come over to the NHRA events.
We dont need more 1000 ft crap, and 1/8 mile isnt even worth watching for a whole 2 or 3 seconds. Maybe they could have run ps 1000 ft for just that race???
 
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