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That there is some mighty good shootin'. Thanks for the link.

BTW, I like your signature. Of course, now someone will just want to outlaw stairs.
 
I love reading stories like this where normal people with a firearm stop criminals. With all the nuts out there I'm glad I've got a permit to carry. Like insurance, I hope I never have to use it, but I have it just in case.
 
I love hearing stories about people using the rights afforded us by OUR Constitution to defend themselves in a time of need.
Good thing she wasn't in the UK or Australia.
Let's hear it for .38 totin grannies!! More power to her! :D
 
LOL, my grandfather had a small business. One of the workers had a love/hate relationship with my grandma. LOL, he loved her and she hated his guts! One day he threatened to come over and lay a big kiss on her. She pulled a .38 out of the side of her Lazy Boy and told him to go ahead. :D

If that guy's even still in jail, you don't suppose he's having to lie or at least not admit that he got put there by an 84 year old woman? :D
 
One of my favorite quotes came from Jesse Ventura when he was Gov of Minnesota. He wrote a book and I bought it and read it and it was really good. It talked about all of his views and such and this is his thought on gun contrl:

"To me gun control is when you can make 3 shots and cover all 3 with a quarter."

I love it! Laugh all you want but if he ran for Prez, I would vote for him. He dont take shit off nobody and he always speaks his mind whether its what you want to hear or not.
 
I love hearing stories about people using the rights afforded us by OUR Constitution to defend themselves in a time of need.
Good thing she wasn't in the UK or Australia.
Let's hear it for .38 totin grannies!! More power to her! :D

Paul its about time people started ignoring Mr Hutchinsons jibes at the US and its constitution, which obviously influence feeling towards the UK on this board. Not all of the British people are as narrow minded and think the same way.

But I do think that here you are missing the point in our country making firearms illegal. The point being that the likelyhood of the criminal entering a property in the UK is much less than that in the US, as our rates of violent crime are significantly lower than the US due to the fact that most idiots have no access to firearms and thus are less likely to feel "invinceable". Its just two different ways of living which probably just about achieve the same objective. Personally I'm not a fan of guns, but there are plenty of other things in the US Constitution and way of life that I do find attractive just like their are plusses to some of the laws and rights in the UK over that. I'm sure anyone can find things which they actually prefer in any given culture/way of life around the world.

Don't get me wrong here... Good on the old girl for giving him what he deserved but it could so easily have ended in him reacting quicker and blowing her head off with quite possibly a semi automatic weapon, whereas here if the same had happened maybe yes the poor lady would've maybe got a beating in the same circumstances but would be a damn sight more likely to live to tell the tale.

I fail to see why when the UK has stood alongside the US in conflicts on so many occasions, when we basically all have the same beliefs and moral fibre, why is it necassary for people like yourself to drive a wedge between between your closest allies in which I also obviously include our friends down-under. This is just as outrageous in every way as to the comments made in equal and opposing measure by the man I am ashamed to call my compatriot, Mr Hutchinson.

With the attempts to destroy our freedoms and enforce ways of life which our peoples do not want, that have been abundant in recent times, is it not about time that we actually "learned who our friends are" in the global sense?

CP
 
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Chris,
I wasn't trying to bag on the UK or incite divisiveness. I agree that Britain is one of our greatest allies and most staunchest supporters. It is good that the British government knows where their bread is buttered so to speak! Too bad the French never learned that lesson. All I can say is that I do not think very highly of the way that the respective governments of the UK and Australia have disarmed their law-abbiding populace. Granted we have very different societies for sure, but the means and ability to defend ones home is a basic right. Too many people in our country and throughout the world do not realize that the Second Amendment is the one that makes all the others possible. Our Founding Fathers in their infinate wisdom knew the fact that when the people are armed and able to defend themselves against all enemies foreign and domestic, it becomes much more difficult to strip them of other basic rights. It keeps the government honest so to speak as well as giving other outside powers pause when considering aggression.
 
My take is that on the pro-gun side, it's OK to carry around a small pistol but on the anti-gun side, does anyone really need a 100-round a minute UZI to fight off someone? :rolleyes:
 
My take is that on the pro-gun side, it's OK to carry around a small pistol but on the anti-gun side, does anyone really need a 100-round a minute UZI to fight off someone? :rolleyes:

The problem is the word "need." Once you get into that, you get into the very slippery slope of who "needs" anything and who gets to be the one to determine what others "need." Eventually you'll be down to a one shot clip.

The Virginia Tech shooter could have done the same thing with revolvers and speed loaders. He might have done a lot less had some teachers or other students been carrying concealed. Since it's obvious that it it was planned in advance and that this was his last act, I don't think he would have been overly concerned about breaking the law if he'd have had to obtain the weapons illegally, either.

Just remember that the founding documents were written to protect us from our own government. I don't think they never intended for the government to be stronger than it's citizens.
 
The problem is the word "need." Once you get into that, you get into the very slippery slope of who "needs" anything and who gets to be the one to determine what others "need." Eventually you'll be down to a one shot clip.

The Virginia Tech shooter could have done the same thing with revolvers and speed loaders. He might have done a lot less had some teachers or other students been carrying concealed. Since it's obvious that it it was planned in advance and that this was his last act, I don't think he would have been overly concerned about breaking the law if he'd have had to obtain the weapons illegally, either.

Just remember that the founding documents were written to protect us from our own government. I don't think they never intended for the government to be stronger than it's citizens.

Well stated.:)
 
Well stated.:)

Ouch! Except for "I don't think they NEVER intended for the government to be stronger than it's citizens." A double negative typo! Am I the only one who does typos that also equal bad grammar? :D

Nah, I have intentions as good as anyone else's. I'm as IDEAListic as anyone, in that I would have no problem if firearms or other weapons had never been invented. I just don't think it's REAListic for anyone to think that gun control laws will work in countries that are already saturated with them. Once the criminals have them, you have to go the other way and make sure the innocent civilians do, as well. Until the government can issue everyone their own personal cop to follow them around 24 hours a day for protection, what else makes sense?

I keep saying that's the answer to Iraq, as well. Pass out arms to 25 million people, show them how to use them, then get the hell out.
 
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Once the criminals have them, you have to go the other way and make sure the innocent civilians do, as well. Until the government can issue everyone their own personal cop to follow them around 24 hours a day for protection, what else makes sense?


I read a story years ago in a martial arts magazine about a women using her skills to stop an intruder from raping her after he broke into her house. He was found guilty of several rapes in the area. Nonetheless, he sued this woman in civil court for his medical expenses stating he would have never attacked her if he thought she could fight back. He won.

BTW, be prepared to spend at least one night in jail if you ever, God save from such a thing, have to shoot to stop an attacker. Also be prepared to be sued in civil court by your assailant if he/she lives, or his/her family if the attacker dies. And, depending on where you live, your DA might try to get re-elected by victimizing you even further. All of these are risks I'm willing to take to protect myself and my family. Just wish we lived in a society that made this type of fear obsolete.
 
BTW, be prepared to spend at least one night in jail if you ever, God save from such a thing, have to shoot to stop an attacker. Also be prepared to be sued in civil court by your assailant if he/she lives, or his/her family if the attacker dies. And, depending on where you live, your DA might try to get re-elected by victimizing you even further. All of these are risks I'm willing to take to protect myself and my family. Just wish we lived in a society that made this type of fear obsolete.

If it ever happens around here, the only way anyone's going to know about it is if I/we do a poor job of disposing of the body. As far as that goes, I remember an old saying that goes "Better judged by twelve than carried by eight."

I remember a woman calling G. Gordon Liddy's show a couple or so years ago. She lived in Indiana, but worked in Chicago, where I believe she said she couldn't get a carry permit. She said she was always having to walk through parking garages after dark, and described the purse with a pistol pouch, so she inconspicuously could walk with her hand in it.

Liddy told her the CIA assasination method. I believe it was one shot to the chest, one to the head, then one to the chest again. Then make yourself WALK, don't run away. He also said to look AT the chest, that if you look at the face it can make you emotional and cause you to hesitate. He said after that first shot, things will be happening so fast in your head that it won't matter after that, you'll shoot anything! LOL

I personally know of someone who was charged with a felony, and they were able to absolutely prove that they were guilty of a misdemeanor. The prosecuting attorney was running for judge and had commercials running on TV in which he stood up and proclaimed "I PROSECUTE CRIMINALS!" The prosecuting attorney offered him his choice. He takes the felony and walks out with probation. If he fights for the misdemeanor, he will serve every day of a maximum two year sentence. IMO, if the guy really prosecuted criminals, he should have taken a warrant out on himself.

That's why I have no problem with looking at laws on an individual basis and deciding for myself what's right and wrong. That, or someone's going to have to tell me that drinking was morally wrong during Prohibition, but then it was okay again after the government only revoked it when it decided that it was losing too many tax dollars.

The same person would have to tell me that whether gambling via lotteries is morally correct depends on where the profits go. Government run lottery equals good. Ron run lottery equals bad. You gotta use what's between your own ears.
 
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Now that's the answer to the Iraq question I've been wondering about! I don't see what else to do at this point.

Well, I keep hearing that we'll leave when there's a perception that the Iraqis can take care of themselves, but I can't figure out anything else that fits that definition. It's like nobody wants to say it that way.

I'm on an Iraqi message board, and they tell stories of the thugs coming around when the soldiers aren't there (kinda like how criminals strike in this country?), enforcing their illegal laws by shooting those who disobey them.
 
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