mikebcurve
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Maybe it’s just me, but I like this guy!
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Maybe it’s just me, but I like this guy!
OK how about adding 2 seconds?12 seconds with your foot off the pedal and the pump wide open wouldn't go over very well. Drivers get upset now if someone takes four seconds to get in, increasing the window to allow another five seconds for someone you hang you out is a bad idea.
I have done a 4-Wide staging seminar at every event and the first thing I tell the drivers is "Don't over think it." If you pre-stage and wait until all four are pre-staged then do your normal routine everyone will be in within 3 seconds of each other. The biggest issue seems to be when someone gets confused with the extra lights, or forgets which lane they are in. Most of the time it works just fine.
Alan
Why do we need to add time? Whether you are racing one other person or three other people, the rule is the same. As soon as one person is fully staged, you have 7 seconds to get your car in the beams or be left at the starting line. Pretty simple to me. Everyone says that stuff like this is a reason to scrap the 4-Wides....I think it's a reason to have MORE of them. Let's see who can adapt the best when they are taken out of their comfort zones and have to shake up their routines a little bit. Embrace the chaos, don't run from it!OK how about adding 2 seconds?
You bring up an excellent point. Any thoughts on how to make 2 Wide more chaotic, to increase entertainment value to an even higher level?Why do we need to add time? Whether you are racing one other person or three other people, the rule is the same. As soon as one person is fully staged, you have 7 seconds to get your car in the beams or be left at the starting line. Pretty simple to me. Everyone says that stuff like this is a reason to scrap the 4-Wides....I think it's a reason to have MORE of them. Let's see who can adapt the best when they are taken out of their comfort zones and have to shake up their routines a little bit. Embrace the chaos, don't run from it!
if the first driver to stage in a 4 wide goes deep and puts pre-stage light out, i'm assuming the 7 sec. clock still starts?
or is there a mechanism in the 4 wide staging electronics will not allow this?
yup. got it ....... has there been a 4 car/bike burndown in 4wides where one racer will not light the prestage? (not nitro classes) ...... assuming lanes 1 and 4 could have an advantage here?The clock starts when all drivers are pre-staged and one is fully staged.
Deep staging has zero effect on the clock.
If one driver double bulbs, the clock will not start until all the other drivers pre-stage.
It would never happen, but even if three are fully staged and one hasn't pre-staged yet, the clock would not start until that last driver lights the pre-stage.
Alan
If the other racers are pissed off by having to wait "too long" then their anger should be directed at Langdon. He made them wait a full 7 secs. Hart was just going by the rules that the NHRA established.Hart did nothing wrong. They all had 7 seconds, Langdon screwed up and took to long. They all waited longer for him stage and since he didn't everyone waiting the full 7 seconds.
I laugh at how racers get so caught up in that. I get waiting on the line, but as a competitor I'd be pissing them all off as I would vary every time just to get them off their game.
John Force is a perfect example of that (Mr. Deep stage) ..................Hart did nothing wrong. They all had 7 seconds, Langdon screwed up and took to long. They all waited longer for him stage and since he didn't everyone waiting the full 7 seconds.
I laugh at how racers get so caught up in that. I get waiting on the line, but as a competitor I'd be pissing them all off as I would vary every time just to get them off their game.